Australian penny varieties list

[JeffH]

I am sorting out a large number of pennies and want to check for any recognised die varieties.

Does anyone have, or know of, a list of all die varieties and combinations?

[Fordprefect]

I am sorting out a large number of pennies and want to check for any recognised die varieties.

Does anyone have, or know of, a list of all die varieties and combinations?

Not my list but compiled by our member emu666 about ten years ago.
Covers probably 95% of what you may find.

1919 double dot
1920 plain London & Indian obverses
1920 dot below London & Indian obverses
1920 dot above London & Indian obverses
1920 double dot
1920 dot above top scroll
1921 London & Indian obverses
1922 London & Indian obverses
1924 London & Indian obverses
1927 London & Indian obverses
1929 London & Indian obverses
1931 aligned 1 London & Indian obverses
1931 dropped 1 London & Indian obverses
1933/2 overdate
1941 K.G high Y dot
1942 Bombay no mintmark
1943 Bombay long reverse denticles
1952A Melbourne & London reverses
1953 Long 5 Different 3
1955Y Melbourne & Perth obverses
1956Y Melbourne & Perth obverses
1957Y London (wider date) & Perth reverses

[JeffH]

Thanks FP (and feathers); that is a good start.
I might add a few others that I know and post the updated list here with an invitation for others to add any more, if they know them.

[Fordprefect]

There is missing from that list 1955Y Narrow and Wide Date reverse.

The 1920 Plain London Reverse is still a Question Mark.

[Fulvio]

There's a book that's been linked here before, as a PDF.

[JeffH]

Just found it and had a look. Not sure how useful it might be -I don't categorise weak strikes, die cracks, strike throughs etc. as varieties (I consider them errors).
And a big download; 68.9Mb.

[nealeffendi]

There is missing from that list 1955Y Narrow and Wide Date reverse.

The 1920 Plain London Reverse is still a Question Mark.

Not in my book. It doesn't exist (and I've looked at getting up to a thousand English obverse 1920 pennies).

[Fordprefect]

You could if you so desire continue to add variations to the list of Same Mint Die types for a given year.

A Qld collector Qld Sandy started a Text List about the same time as emu666, this little bit covers a couple of the teen years.  

1913 Normal coin. Upright 3 in date. London die obverse, flat based letters reverse. SPUR on 2nd N in PENNY. Unlisted
1913 Slanted 3 in date. London die, flat based letters reverse. 3 leans noticably to the left. B3A? P13B
1913 London die, flat based letters reverse. Hairline crack through EORGIV. Unlisted
1914 Normal coin. Upright 4 in date. London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse. B4 P14A
1914 Slanted 4 in date. English die, flat based letters reverse. 4 leans noticably to the left. Very scarce. P14B
1915 Normal coin. London mint, no mintmark, London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse. B5 P15A
1915 Slanted 5 in date. 5 leans noticably to the left. English die, flat based letters reverse. Rare.
1915 London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse. Diecrack from second O in COMMONWEALTH to rim. P15A (a)
1915H Normal coin. Birmingham (Heaton) mint, H mintmark below scroll, London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse. B6 P15B
1916 I Normal coin. Calcutta mint, I mintmark below scroll, Indian die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse. B7 P16A
1916 I Calcutta mint. Indian die obverse, flat based letters reverse. Missing I mintmark reverse, possibly diefilled. P16A (a)

[nealeffendi]

The 1916 Penny (no I) is certainly a diefill. Paul Holland published the mint records a few years back that shows the I was on the master.
There are a few lists out there that have hundreds of varieties. Phil Bird (Qld) and Mike Locke (USA) are both pretty good.

[autocoupler]

1922 various date widths (five core groups) :grin:

You may view most of these as errors?
1939 dash after last A of Australia

1942Y. Missing dot after Y (might be die fill) I have one in high grade, and definitely not from a weak strike

1951PL Missing PL (might be die fill) I remember about 8 years  ago one in grade EF sold for $600 on Quicksales. Hope they're all worth that, about 5 years ago I picked up one in similar grade on ebay for $9 something from Canada :yahoo:

1952P Square serif, pointed serif, wedge serif, right leaning 2. The square and wedge serifs may be die breaks.
1952M Cud on 9, hub doubled obverse

1962 Double nose

Fred Levers variety book identifies others, particularly many with date numeral differences.

[trout]

How about the broken "N" and "Q" varieties with the 1925 Penny.
PCGS  has now started to recognise the broken "N" coins :ok:

[Basil]

Just found it and had a look. Not sure how useful it might be -I don't categorise weak strikes, die cracks, strike throughs etc. as varieties (I consider them errors).
And a big download; 68.9Mb.

Any chance of a link(authors name?) to see if i have a copy.  TIA

Edit..thanks Jeff.

[JeffH]

Mostyn Arthur Byrnes pre-decinal varieties book
Someone else did post this link in another thread but it took me ages to find -just found it again quicker via CCF.

[robbiegal]

I have searched through hundreds and hundreds of the 1951 penny looking for the missing PL
alas, never found one ..... one day  ... never know

[JeffH]

I have collated all the information I now have and here is the list, so far;
Penny variety list (includes recurring errors)
1913 Normal coin. Upright 3 in date. London die obverse, flat based letters reverse. SPUR on 2nd N in PENNY.
1913 Slanted 3 in date. London die, flat based letters reverse. 3 leans noticably to the left.
1913 London die, flat based letters reverse. Hairline crack through EORGIV.
1914 Normal coin. Upright 4 in date. London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse.
1914 Slanted 4 in date. English die, flat based letters reverse. 4 leans noticably to the left.
1915 Normal coin. London mint, no mintmark, London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse.
1915 Slanted 5 in date. 5 leans noticably to the left. English die, flat based letters reverse.
1915 London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse. Diecrack from second O in COMMONWEALTH to rim.
1915H Normal coin. Birmingham (Heaton) mint, H mintmark below scroll, London die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse.
1916 I Normal coin. Calcutta mint, I mintmark below scroll, Indian die obverse, flat based letters on the reverse.
1916 I Calcutta mint. Indian die obverse, flat based letters reverse. Missing I mintmark reverse, possibly diefill. The 1916 Penny (no I) is certainly a diefill.
1919 No dot, upright final 9
1919 No dot. Final 9 slopes left
1919 Dot below bottom scroll. Final 9 upright
1919 Dot below bottom scroll. Final 9 leans left
1919 Dot below bottom scroll and above top scroll. Final 9 upright
1920 London obverse and Indian reverse, no dots
1920 Indian obverse and reverse, no dots
1920 London obverse and Indian reverse, dot under lower scroll
1920 Indian obverse and reverse, dot under reverse scroll
1920 London obverse and Indian reverse, dot above lower scroll
1920 Indian obverse and reverse, dot above reverse scroll
1920 Indian obverse and reverse, dot above upper scroll
1920 Indian obverse and reverse, dot below bottom scroll and above top scroll
The 1920 Plain London Reverse is still a Question Mark. "It doesn't exist."
1921 London & Indian obverses
1922 London & Indian obverses
1922 various date widths (five core groups)
1924 London & Indian obverses
1925 broken "N" and "Q"
1927 London & Indian obverses
1929 London & Indian obverses
1931 aligned 1 London & Indian obverses
1931 dropped 1 London & Indian obverses
1933/2 overdate
1939 dash after last A of Australia
1941 K.G high Y dot
1942 Bombay no mintmark
1942Y. Missing dot after Y (might be die fill)
1943 Bombay long reverse denticles
1951PL Missing PL (might be die fill) London reverse has no serif '5' and stem of 'Y' aligned with denticle.
1952P London reverse, common (Perth mintmark dot after AUSTRALIA)
1952P Melbourne reverse, pointed serif
1952P Melbourne reverse, square serif (possibly damaged pointed serif die)
1952P Melbourne reverse, pointed serif, misaligned 2
1952P Melbourne reverse, wedge serif (possibly damaged pointed serif die)
1952M Melbourne mint (no mintmark)
1952M Cud on 9, hub doubled obverse
1953 Long 5 Different 3
1955Y Melbourne & Perth obverses
1955Y Narrow and Wide Date reverse.
1956Y Melbourne & Perth obverses
1957Y London (wider date) & Perth reverses
1962 Double nose

Additions, corrections (I will surely have made some errors) and comments invited.