Canberra Florins

Started by trout, August 16, 2015, 06:03:30 AM

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echidna

Proof-like Canberras are quite different to the regular circulation strikes  .
Some appear to be proofs but die polish is different.
I think a seperate catagory in Maccas & Renniks (and PCGS) would be right.

p.gee

Please excuse a bigginer but what makes a coin proof like as opposed to proof and how does this  effect the value.

r9453

Quote from: 'p.gee' pid='103437' dateline='1483502035'Please excuse a bigginer but what makes a coin proof like as opposed to proof and how does this  effect the value.

That makes two of us.

Google:

"A prooflike coin is a highly POLISHED (by the MINT) regular strike coin. A prooflike coin appears to have a near proof coin reflection. Prooflike coins usually occur in the earliest strikes. Prooflike coins are the most common in intentionally produced PL sets, such as Canada."

And this:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=71858
Two Bob coin collector.

echidna

Quote from: 'r9453' pid='103438' dateline='1483503530'
Quote from: 'p.gee' pid='103437' dateline='1483502035'Please excuse a bigginer but what makes a coin proof like as opposed to proof and how does this  effect the value.

That makes two of us.

Google:

"A prooflike coin is a highly POLISHED (by the MINT) regular strike coin. A prooflike coin appears to have a near proof coin reflection. Prooflike coins usually occur in the earliest strikes. Prooflike coins are the most common in intentionally produced PL sets, such as Canada."

And this:

http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=71858

Proof-like Canberras have mirror fields OR have been struck from re-used proof dies.
The ones with mirror fields were possibly struck on polished proof planchets.
Unlike Canadian PL coins they were struck for circulation.

They are sometimes graded as proofs so a seperate catagory would be appropriate to avoid this.

trout

My understanding of Proof Like or PL coins is that the coin exhibits proof like qualities eg smooth mirror like fields and a strong overall strike But the coin is Not considered to be struck with proof dies in the same manner that proof coins are ( struck more than once and at higher pressures to a business strike) and not on specially prepared planchets.

The explanation that I got as to how my particular PL coin came about is that a surplus  Proof planchet was used on a normal press to produce it.
I am unaware of any other PL Canberra's But I imagine that there are some others because I vaguely remember Walter commenting that my particular PL coin was one of the best that he had seen, Maybe Walter can enlighten us about these unusual Canberra Florins.
I do remember bidding on a coin that looked to be prooflike on Numisbid a while back but I missed out on that particular coin and one of our members here secured the coin instead.

I won my particular coin on Numisbid a year or so ago But at one stage I was devastated that I was unable to bid "Live" due to work commitments and was outbid by another collector.
It turned out that the winning bidder hit the wrong bidding button on the night and the bid was cancelled and my "Proxy" bid Won the Day for me :yahoo:
Even alongside MS65 and my MS66 Canberra's the difference between the MS coins and the PL coin is clearly evident and that $750 I spent on my coin was clearly well spent :good:

See, Behind every coin there IS a story to be told :)

If anyone else has a PL Canberra I would love to see  images of them here on this thread.
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

echidna

If anyone else has a PL Canberra I would love to see  images of them here on this thread.
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Probably a proof planchet.
Deep mirror surfaces and cameo appearance.

trout

Nice :drooling:
Where is the reverse :)
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

echidna


trout

The die polish marks on both of our coins are not the exactly the same but are in the roughly the same areas on the coin.
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
Illegitimi non carborundum

interest

When you have a really nice clean coin. :ireful:

autocoupler

What's You talkin about "Lewis"? I see some minor toning/staining, maybe a little ding at 3 O'clock, maybe some slight wear on the maces, a few marks in the fields, but some alright steps though?
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I've forgotten the other two!

echidna









Another circulation strike from the proof dies.
Pics are sellers and it looks a bit ratty.
Should be better in the hand.

My guess is that they did a reasonable run before the reverse die cracked.

ausproofs

Collecting coins is not about having the best, but loving what you have ...

LooseChange

Were these coins struck in 1927 and plated in 2017?

http://www.downies.com/australian-currency/Australian-Predecimal-Coins/1927-Gold-Plated-Canberra-Florin/7888/productview.aspx

Quote from:  Downies Description:

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    Australia's very first commemorative coin
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    A special release to mark the 90th anniversary of Old Parliament House in Canberra  


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nealeffendi

:icon_cry: Frankly there needs to be an emoticon spewing green vomit for when I see plated coins, especially when they are at 700% of their bullion value that they peddle as "value for money" and are not even MS grannybait. Frankly they are false advertising as that blue image has perfect steps and full maces.