Noodling finds

[JeffH]

OMG! It's the wrong shape.

Is it a double bar?

20 rolls of 50c from CBA and all of them 2012!

These are almost certainly uncirculated (with, maybe, lots of marks). You could pick out the rolls with best looking end coins and stick them on eBay. They usually sell easily.
Open the rest of the rolls and sort out the least marked ones as keepers; cash in the rest.

That's what I do with similar lots. But, it is usually bags -rolls tend to have a higher proportion of coins with minimal marking.

Jeff

[Fulvio]

21 x 50c pieces down over six bags

Down? You mean they shorted you?
And how could you be down that much over only six bags? Or do you mean sacks? Its still a lot though, I was down a total of about 8 over 39 sacks. Which of course they made up for.

[Ozcoins]

Well done Goldseeker!
I have found 1 1966 a while back too.

[Goldseeker]

OK fulvio, 21 coins down over 6 x $200 bags of 50c pieces.......don't worry, they will not get away with it.

Since December 2012, I have found in excess $300.00 in additional currency, Australian that is, in the large plastic bags of 50c, 20c and $1 coins.

If any bag has been short, the banks generally make them up.

In fact on one bag of 400 x 50c pieces, I was surplus 28 coins.   Back they went and the manager was appreciative.

[Fulvio]

...in excess $300.00 in additional currency

You've gotta be kidding. These are clearly not Armaguard sacks then, but customer deposits? What are they doing over there? My branches all weigh everything... even rolls!

[Goldseeker]

All my coins I swap at the banks are in the large see through plastic bags as you have seen at my place.

I think every bag of coins I have received have had at least one other denomination coin inside.  

The banks, on occasion, weigh the bags before they issue them to me.   Most do a one for one exchange without weighing.

[Fulvio]

Most do a one for one exchange without weighing.

AHA! There's your problem. If they're accepting them without checking, there's nothing to stop innocent or otherwise errors occurring.

Those sacks (CoinSafes IIRC... don't have one handy) are packed by the customer or the branch, and don't meet the same standard as Security company sacks, which are machine packed, sealed, weighed and labelled.

And even they get it wrong. I've had 4 or 5 shortages to date. Worst one was 3 coins down plus a 5¢ posing as $2, for an $8 loss. The others were 1 or 2 down. The banks regard this as an unacceptable rate, and say they can't claim unless the faulty bag is still sealed, so I'm now weighing each bag before opening (the sacks are too heavy to weigh with my scales).

I really don't get how your branches can be so blasè about this.

[Goldseeker]

It has taken a long time for me to get these swaps going on a one for one basis.

My guarantee to the bank is that if any bag is short from me and contains anything else but Aussie coins, you, the bank, can keep the coins.

The coin bags I swap are $1 coins x 500, 50c x $200 and 20c x $100 bags, the large plastic see through bags.   I showed these bags to you when you were over last time.

To date, I have not lost anything to the banks in forfiture because of my guarantee.

The coins I get are those bags of coins that are removed from the coin count machines in the banks foyer.   I ensure that each bag I receive from the bank has the "advise slip" inside the bag.   If the slip is there, I know that I have not had that particular bag od coins before.

I guess it all comes down to "what arrangement one has with the bank(s)".

To date, I have not had any bags of coins or rolled coin from coin security services outside of the banks.   So "there's your problem", as stated in your last response, does not compute.

[Fulvio]

does not compute.

If they send the CoinSafe sacks off to Armaguard (or whoever), they get emptied into the hopper to be bagged and sealed into the heavy duty sacks (not the CoinSafes). Barring a mechanical failure or a bag bursting (which has happened twice in nearly 40 sacks now) and losing a coin or two on the way into the sack, the sack should be spot on.

If however they take a sack from a customer and pass it on, or even if they fill it themselves, from their drawers or in the case of CBA those horrible coin machines, then there is no guarantee whatsoever that they didn't miscount. Their scales are no good for large quantities, only an individual bag or two. And I've had a cloth sack of 1,000 loose $2 from Bendigo which they'd filled and got wrong. Fortunately I counted it with the head teller at Westpac, otherwise I would have had to wear the loss.

[trout]

About once or twice a year I get bored and get $500 in coins from the bank.
I have never actually counted them so I wouldn't know if I was over/under.
I have found more unusual/nice coins in my pocket change than noodling , I don't know how you mob can do this on a daily/weekly basis.
My favourite "Noodling" Is getting bulk silver coin lots (especially 3d coins) and doing batches of 20-30 at a time until I have gone through them all :ok:
Going through 1000s of coins in one hit burns my eyes out :dash1:

[Goldseeker]

I am after bulk coins for the search for obvious errors/faujlts.   Having buked searched in excess of 2.5 million coins in the past few years, I have built up quite a collection of errors and faults.

Since December 2012, I have searched 111, 260 x 50c coins for only 19 keepers.   They are 1966 50c x 1, many 200 Incuse and several 2010 rotated upsets.

I need to have a supply of bulk coins and the banks do that quite nicely.

About once or twice a year I get bored and get $500 in coins from the bank.
I have never actually counted them so I wouldn't know if I was over/under.
I have found more unusual/nice coins in my pocket change than noodling , I don't know how you mob can do this on a daily/weekly basis.
My favourite "Noodling" Is getting bulk silver coin lots (especially 3d coins) and doing batches of 20-30 at a time until I have gone through them all :ok:
Going through 1000s of coins in one hit burns my eyes out :dash1:

I would dearly love to secure bulk silver lots to noodle.   Where do you get them from?

[trout]

I would dearly love to secure bulk silver lots to noodle. Where do you get them from?

some decent lots come up on eBay from time to time, Especially when the spot Silver price goes up :ok:
You just have to steer clear of the dealers and big sellers.
I am waiting for silver to go above $30 per oz and these will come out of the woodwork in droves :wavemulticolor:

[Possie Ron]

Not that I am a big noodleoodeler but thanks to early fathers day prez I may be able to see what I am looking at now.

P8250363 by Bugsy T., on Flickr

[Fulvio]

I don't know how you mob can do this on a daily/weekly basis.

Its our hobby, remember? I don't know how people can stomp about hitting an innocent little ball with a stick all day, or sitting in the rain watching grown men running around in their undies, yet lots of people do those and many other silly things on a regular basis...

Noodling bulk coin is informative, as you get to view a lot of coins and compare them to each other. Errors which you would never notice in your change jump out at you. Whether you keep minor errors or not, you really get a feel for what's going on.

And if it starts to get tedious, just switch to doing something else for a while. Coin-related or just chilling out with a game or whatever. This is a passtime, not a job, after all.

[trout]

I don't know how you mob can do this on a daily/weekly basis.

Its our hobby, remember? I don't know how people can stomp about hitting an innocent little ball with a stick all day, or sitting in the rain watching grown men running around in their undies, yet lots of people do those and many other silly things on a regular basis...

Noodling bulk coin is informative, as you get to view a lot of coins and compare them to each other. Errors which you would never notice in your change jump out at you. Whether you keep minor errors or not, you really get a feel for what's going on.

And if it starts to get tedious, just switch to doing something else for a while. Coin-related or just chilling out with a game or whatever. This is a passtime, not a job, after all.

I admire you mob that have the patience and eyesight to be able to do this, I unfortunately have neither :angel:
I DO find error coins every now and then and enjoy finding them, as I am not an error collector I normally pass these along to collectors that do.
I am basically a boring old date and mintmark collector and want perfect coins (if affordable ) in my collections and error coins don't hold my interest for long :ok:
Getting coins out of circulation for my collections would mean I would be dropping the standard of that collection and I just can't bring myself to add a bagged and circulated coin to that album.
I am talking decimal coins here, There is NO way I could aspire to a full collection of MS/Unc pre decimal coins :dash1:
We all have different ways we collect and acquire our coins, each to their own.
It's just a matter of what rock's the individuals boat :yahoo: