1938 Crown..Split Planchet.

Basil · May 31, 2015, 03:00:49 PM

I found this Coin in a bulk buy a few years ago just sitting in with the other Silver,no holder or special care of any kind.I showed it to a dealer and he was non committal as to what it is but offered to buy it as a curiosity.
Seeing AJ's 20c in the Brisbane Coin Show Thread i thought i would post some Pics. to see what the Brain's Trust thinks.Sorry about the quality but its the best i can do at this stage,it took me several hours to find the coin so just about had enough for today. The split goes 360 degrees around the rim but is slightly wider in some parts...Any Thoughts?..Thanks.

trout · May 31, 2015, 04:00:02 PM

WOW
What an amazing piece :yahoo:

ausjack · May 31, 2015, 04:38:40 PM

Yes it's a beauty alright but I wouldn't use bluetac because of the oils in it. be interesting to see if it eventually splits all the way.

robbiegal · May 31, 2015, 04:39:18 PM

it appears to me to have been cut apart
see the neat seam on the inside of the split - you can see it because you took such great photos

Australian coin · May 31, 2015, 04:45:13 PM

yes cut, splits don't have "burs"

ausjack · May 31, 2015, 04:47:47 PM

:acute: you been in the shed Basil :angel:

Fulvio · May 31, 2015, 04:47:56 PM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='73505' dateline='1433056158'it appears to me to have been cut apart

I'd go along with that, due to the raised metal along the edge of the split. But to be sure you'd need to get a photo of the inside. A split will be rough, with the two sides matching. A cut will be very obvious. You'll probably see marks from the blade, like you do in sawn timber.

Got a USB microscope?

markn · May 31, 2015, 06:14:02 PM

That is freaking amazing.

purplepennyhunter · May 31, 2015, 06:38:53 PM

basil can you peer inside and see the split striations? see image here

If it's real it's awesome!

trout · May 31, 2015, 06:44:58 PM

QuoteIf it's real it's awesome!

Especially considering the low mintage of this coin.
I very much doubt that someone would "tamper" with one of these due to their value :ok:
Looks like a "one off " to me Mate :good:

Basil · May 31, 2015, 09:07:41 PM

Thanks for the replies,i'll keep it out and try & get some better photos,its hard to get a good look inside,shining the torch just seems to show dark toned surface with no detail but i'll try & get the Microscope on it Tomorrow.
When i first looked at i assumed it had been tampered with for some obscure reason because of the marks on the Obverse it looked like it had been in circulation at some point but they may have come from poor storeage.
Anyway not out to con anybody,just like to know whats happened to it so will probaly have send it off to one of the experts on here to have a look at it if they are willing.

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='73504' dateline='1433056120'Yes it's a beauty alright but I wouldn't use bluetac because of the oils in it. be interesting to see if it eventually splits all the way.

Yeah AJ,i washed it afterwards,nightmare trying to get some shots.I had forgotten about the coin until i saw your 20c,light went off,i've got a similar coin to that.

ausjack · June 01, 2015, 01:22:34 AM

Ah yeah ya gotta love the light Basil

try taking your pic in sunlight and see if that helps :winkextra:

robbiegal · June 01, 2015, 09:54:23 PM

I didn't mean to be mean Basil :heart:

I was just trying to describe what I could see as I have handled a few of these over the years and have been taught what to keep an eye out for

sometimes as well, a coin to starts to spilt and they are given a helping hand - I think someone here posted about how they assisted a coin to split further or completely

anyways, just wanting to say that I don't mean to burst bubbles
but getting advice from other s in the forum I believe helps us to make more informed calls on our coins esp. the errors!!

PP and Mark are pretty damned good with the errors and their advice is up there with the best in Australian numismatics (IMO)
cheers rob

addit
I actually believe that they are the best .... !!!!

Basil · June 01, 2015, 10:11:53 PM

No worries,just after after some comments,i'm not sure myself.It stumped a dealer a few years back and also his mate who had a stall nearby,the first ? they ask is if its been tampered with is why,it would have to be pro. done by a Jeweller or Watchmaker on a lathe you would think but the gap is not uniform around the rim and it sits higher in one place.
I'll post some better Pics. Tomorrow or Wed.

ausjack · June 02, 2015, 07:04:34 AM

Oh look at RG suckin up :mocking: so what do you want sweetheart

Pay them no mind Basil, tall poppy syndrome mate :friends: I get it all the time because I'm so bloody good, well that's what I have to tell myself

but am very interested to see a few more pic's :winkextra: