Centenary Florin Presentation Box

[nealeffendi]

I recently purchased a Centenary Florin presentation box (box only). It is 2" wide,2.75" long and 1" deep with a brown and black mottled outside and a blue fabric holder for the florin. It was eBay item 231371124484.
It is not the You are the star box but is some sort of unrecorded official or semi official box as on the bottom is written From Cr. Nettlefold 1934+5
Councillor Nettlefold was the chap in charge of issuing the florins.
Klaus Ford has seen the box and he doesn't recognise it, he suggests it might be a generic box for florins.
He may be right, but if so then who was manufacturing boxes then with an indent to perfectly hold florins? There would have been little demand except possibly for the Centenary florin or possibly by the mints in London or Heaton  or the major dealers (Spinks, Baldwins) for distributing either proof or specimen florins between the wars.
So has anyone seen a similar box? Possibly holding a non Centenary florin or even with a different sized insert to hold another denomination (farthing to crown).

[tezza]

looks like it doesn't belong, to me the style of the box is wrong

[robbiegal]

photo?
hi Tezza! :sun_bespectacled:

[nealeffendi]

looks like it doesn't belong, to me the style of the box is wrong

In what way? Wrong era?
I've done an online search to see what other boxes looked like. The blue lining seems common to some other coins (such as the Waitangi proof set of 1935)  but that had a red box. The English crown of 1935 also came in a kraft box, again red in colour (so does that mean the boxes from London mint would be red?)

[robbiegal]

all ok
found the listing with the multiple photos

[Fordprefect]

I'd continue to look at New Zealand, and in particular
one H Williams a very prominent numismatic/dealer
of that time. Looks like a piece of his value adding. :angel:

[Australian coin]

its not a official mint product, as there is no name on it, more like a jewellers or gift box

well there you go a quick search says the boxes were made for a newspaper competition  
http://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/research/who-will-it-be-it-turns-out-it-was-mr-les-cobon-port-melbourne

[nealeffendi]

Thanks Fordie, that is the box, how did you get those photos? Do you have an idea what the word above 1934+5 reads?
What makes you suggest H.G. Williams? Also why would a NZ coin dealer pencil in From Cr. Nettlefold? That implies that it was some sort of gift or an annotation for a single sample coin, not something to put on 50 or 100 boxes. Plus I doubt the name Nettlefold would have any meaning to his customers and they would prefer a neatly written description of the florin.
Even if it is an unofficial commercial box; well that also applies to the unofficial commercial Foys bags and those common flimsy bags sell for what this box cost (but I still want to add those 2 bags to my exonumia collection).
AC,I have seen the Sterlingcurrency article, but again I have not seen the particular image that you have posted.Is there a logical explanation for why your image has black velvet but the Sterling image has royal blue? The lighting has made your boxes cover a brighter blue, so that would make a royal blue paler and not black:huh:

[purplepennyhunter]

Wow Neal, keep sleuthing.

[Australian coin]

if you right click on a picture, and look at properties, its a old downies catalogue link pic

[markn]

its not a official mint product, as there is no name on it, more like a jewellers or gift box

What a sweeping statement. :dodgy:  Lack of printing isn't proof of anything and you have no idea what the mint were issuing their coins in back then.

[purplepennyhunter]

There was a You are the Star box in an Edlins auction a few years ago (If the Andrew Crellin article pic is not the same).

[markn]

Wow Neal, keep sleuthing.

Indeed Neal, keep us all updated.

[robbiegal]

its not a official mint product, as there is no name on it, more like a jewellers or gift box

What a sweeping statement. :dodgy:  Lack of printing isn't proof of anything and you have no idea what the mint were issuing their coins in back then.

my understanding is that the Melbourne Mint at the time was shovelling the coins back into the furnace - my coin dealer knew a man who did exactly that!
so i'd guess that any 'mint cases' (if ever made),  would have been another numismatic failure to attract custom from the struggling Australians of the day

probably would have been tossed into the furnace with the coins

but I am not aware of a Mint case for these coins ?

[Australian coin]

http://royalcoinsandbanknotes.com.au/researchmcf.html

that's all I could find on the web, maybe a library or something might be your next step