Doomsday Prep program.

Coiny Chris · August 17, 2014, 11:10:16 AM

Hello,

A bit of a change from " reality " programs. I am quite interested in what people think is going to happen and how they will prepare. Who knows, they may be right. I see many flaws in some of the plans, but if it helps them sleep that is good for them.

I always have a bit of a laugh at the matter of fact way people think it will happen, and how they are so well prepared they are sure they will survive.

What do you think about this, do you have any plans of some kind ?

robbiegal · August 17, 2014, 11:38:05 AM

my son used to watch those American based shows a bit

my personal opinion is that they are EXTREMELY paranoid, suspicious, wacky and potentially VERY dangerous folk
houses loaded of guns ammunition and hidey holes with years worth of food and supplies

I feel really sorry for their children
an awful way to live each day as if the big doomsday is just around the corner

i'd much rather have a veggie patch and a can of viable seeds for my doomsday plan - the idea of a certain amount of self reliance suits me fine but living each day in paranoid fear is very unsettling to me

Ozcoins · August 17, 2014, 12:37:00 PM

I am with robbiegal on this one.

keldaw · August 17, 2014, 02:31:41 PM

I try not to watch much tv these days ..
and my plan is to be dead before any of these things happen ,
I have lived with this fear for the last 40 years and have been on meds all that time , I do not laugh about anything and I just do not enjoy anything at all now , it is just a waiting game for me now till the end .. please don't tell me to get help , as I have been seeing my physco for years now , and all I get is stay on you med,s and you will be ok .. so now that is why I say , I LIVE FOR MY FAMILY . ,, KEL ,,

trout · August 17, 2014, 02:37:37 PM

The thing that I have noticed with these "Preppers" is that they are universally Selfish in their outlook.
I much prefer the way we handle disasters in Australia, We tend to drop everything and band together to help people NOT run away and hide in a bunker and think "Bugger you Jack" I'm OK. :dodgy:

Coiny Chris · August 17, 2014, 03:46:01 PM

Hello,

I dont see it as selfish to want to look after your family, besides we have looters after floods and such things. I remember an episode with a woman who was traning and going to run to a hidden car and drive away to a safe refuge. She was learning self defence but I doubt she would shoot first in a confrontation. Will the car be there ? will it run and she be able to drive away without being stopped and all bridges being still there ? Has she had her appendix out ? I feel far too many are making too many assumptions of how it will be. It doesnt take much for Chaos and lawlessness behaviour to take over. Without a natural disaster a sports game result can do this.

trout · August 17, 2014, 04:25:14 PM

I am under the assumption that a Huge percentage of these "Preppers" are City based and basically rely entirely on service providers, shops and other people for everything they need in their daily life.
I would also imagine that if the power went out, the water stopped flowing out of the taps and the shops ran out of food it would only take a few days for the City folk to start panicking.
It is an unfortunate fact that a large percentage of our population live in Cities or large towns and most of them haven't developed the skills that Most country folk take for granted.
Like being able to Kill and dress your own Meat, Fix things without having to call in someone else, Know where you Water comes from and ensure that it keeps flowing.
Also a huge range of other skills that a City dweller wouldn't have a clue about.
My pantry and freezers are always kept full, I run some livestock and I enjoy growing my own vegetables, That doesn't make me a "Prepper" Its just the way I live.
If it did come down to S.H.T.F situation I would share what I have and teach people how to fend for themselves without hesitation.

keldaw · August 17, 2014, 05:25:25 PM

very true jim ,

I would go back out to blackall western qld , I was born there and grew up there and after my school years I worked in the shearing shed as a rouseabout and some days it was my job to kill and dress a sheep for the cook , [ the cook were men them days ] so I did the butchering and other times I was penning up the sheep for the shearers . and we drank water out of the boar drains and never got sick so I think me and my family would be ok , but I think I will be gone by then anyway ... ..
,, kel ,,

JeffH · August 17, 2014, 07:11:15 PM

Quotemy personal opinion is that they are EXTREMELY paranoid, suspicious, wacky and potentially VERY dangerous folk
houses loaded of guns ammunition and hidey holes with years worth of food and supplies

I agree. The problem I see is, if there enough of these ratbags, then they may make their prophesies self-fulfilling!

proof27 · August 17, 2014, 08:03:49 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='57282' dateline='1408258514'I am under the assumption that a Huge percentage of these "Preppers" are City based and basically rely entirely on service providers, shops and other people for everything they need in their daily life.
I would also imagine that if the power went out, the water stopped flowing out of the taps and the shops ran out of food it would only take a few days for the City folk to start panicking.
It is an unfortunate fact that a large percentage of our population live in Cities or large towns and most of them haven't developed the skills that Most country folk take for granted.
Like being able to Kill and dress your own Meat, Fix things without having to call in someone else, Know where you Water comes from and ensure that it keeps flowing.
Also a huge range of other skills that a City dweller wouldn't have a clue about.
My pantry and freezers are always kept full, I run some livestock and I enjoy growing my own vegetables, That doesn't make me a "Prepper" Its just the way I live.
If it did come down to S.H.T.F situation I would share what I have and teach people how to fend for themselves without hesitation.

We are not all stupid here in suburbia, and we are not all totally useless. Yeah we go to the butcher to get our meat and not go out the backyard and shoot a cow, or have chickens for our eggs. A lot of us live in these areas because , well we are raised in these areas, work in these areas, my family and I would like to live out a bit further in the bush, but work doesn't permit that, commitments don't permit that. And don't tell me you don't go to shops to buy supplies, even bush folk needs items that dead animals or the land can't provide.

echidna · August 17, 2014, 08:48:40 PM

The basics of life are taken for granted these days.
Like good food.
It will be there tomorrow at the supermarket at a cheap price.
Just like everything else.
One day it may not be there.

Food security is a real issue.
Generation Z have no idea.

The doomsday scenario is possible.
But perhaps not in our lifetime I'd say.
I'd suggest a bag of sovereigns and/or a case of Jack Daniels as insurance though.

robbiegal · August 17, 2014, 09:01:14 PM

a few people who I know are/were refugees (and came to Oz through the proper channels) and they had to bribe and buy their safe passage out from their war affected homeland

gold, gemstones and cash was what worked for them
oh, and the guts to do it

ausjack · August 17, 2014, 10:05:19 PM

just have to wait for the day but dog eat dog comes to mind. The one's like trout and GS will still be around as being trained how to kill and survive on nothing helps a lot so if you don't have it in you you ain't gonna be here long :winkextra:

nealeffendi · August 18, 2014, 08:10:56 AM

Many of the prepper shows on TV choose to show the weird and crazy kooks, both because they make interesting viewing and to disparage main stream folks from being preppers.
Lots of preppers are fairly normal folks who like to be prepared for not just SHTF end of world scenarios but also for common events. The power can go out for days/weeks after a big storm (cyclone up North), you can be flooded in for weeks, the ATMs and plastic cards can fail (happened to me once and couldn't make a withdrawl for 6 weeks) and transport strikes (or OPEC embargos) means no transport and empty shelves.
Bet we can all tick at least one of the above as having happened to us, next time it might be worse because the System is fragile and has moved to JIT (just in time) cost cutting that removes resiliance.
How hard is it to keep a few months supply of your normal food in the pantry (remember to rotate), a jerry can full of petrol in your garden shed and have a few things like a generator stored away.
It is pathetic watching people in places like Western Queensland getting airdrops when they run out of food in the floods they get every few years or people in the Top End not being prepped for cyclones.

ausjack · August 18, 2014, 08:44:32 AM

Yeah agree Neal as we have the same here and we all know if not next year or the year after that but with in a few it will flood and fires are the same as we get them around here but they don't burn when they should any more and they don't move to higher or safer ground until it's too late, when we were on land out coutts we and everyone knew that as soon as it starts to rain move everything in the house up on tables and the like and move all the stock to the top block or you'll be swimmin the bastards and a lot easier walkin them :winkextra: