1923 Threepenny Brockage.?

[Robster]

Reversed lettering on this Threepence. Best description for my records please.!!

[markn]

That's cool.  Are the ghost letters incuse or in relief?

[Robster]

Seems to be incused, cuts into 2 and 3.!

[markn]

If it's a brockage then it's been struck twice, first as a "brockage" and then as a normal coin.  It could be die clash but the letters are in the wrong spot compared with reverse.  Maybe the dies were dropped on each other?  Is it upset at all?

[nealeffendi]

Would a brokage show incuse marks into the 2 and 3? The striking should obliterate the incuse bits in those digits Might it be PMD where  somebody hit another coin on top of this one?

[markn]

Would a brokage show incuse marks into the 2 and 3? The striking should obliterate the incuse bits in those digits Might it be PMD where  somebody hit another coin on top of this one?

If it's brockage then those letters would be incuse and show up as weakness on the letters struck over the top of them.  PMD is certainly a possibility that shouldn't be discounted though.  What's the obverse look like Robster?

[Robster]

No discernible upset but excessive wear at 6 o'clock, planchet seems to be slightly 'thinner' in this area plus faint crack above IND.

[markn]

I think the damage at the bottom of the obverse lends credence to Neal's PMD theory.  Can you put a microscope on the 3 of the date in the region where it crosses with the incuse letter and see if there's evidence of metal displacement?

[Robster]

Certainly has metal displacement on both the 3 and 2, will mark it as pmd. until I catch up with Mark. Thank you both for your time.!! :good:

[markn]

Certainly has metal displacement on both the 3 and 2, will mark it as pmd. until I catch up with Mark. Thank you both for your time.!! :good:

I look forward to seeing it