EBay whinges

Started by JeffH, July 21, 2014, 06:12:12 PM

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JeffH

Quote from: 'keldaw' pid='55074' dateline='1405892452'the reason I am selling on this forum is that I want to offer them to friends rather then sell on ebay to strangers and I also save on commission to ebay and now they even charge commission on the postage cost .. wrong , just wrong ..     ,, kel ,,
Kel said this in his sale thread. I think this matter is worth some discussion as quite a few forum members are "hobby/amateur" sellers on eBay.
So, to avoid Mark having to waste time deleting or moving off thread posts I have started a new thread.

From changes to eBay policies in recent times it is obvious they are strongly encouraging professional (shop) sellers with hundreds or thousands of listings; all Buy it Now and free, express postage is their preferred option.
They don't care about the small seller -in my case most items sell for between $10 and $25; some more and some even less. I can't afford to cover postage costs for such small sales so I just have to bear the iniquitous commission charge on postage. I have been listing quite a few items lately with "free" post and that doesn't translate into higher selling prices.
Anyway, there is no such thing as free post -someone has to pay- guess who? Yes, it is built into the price.

Auction sales are an increasingly smaller proportion of eBay listings and they don't care. EBay is now a "selling" site, not an "auction" site. Management priority is to maximise revenue. Any long term. small sellers who are unhappy are not the sellers they want. Feel free to leave if you don't like that -and don't hold your breath waiting for the emails trying to woo you back.

Because some overseas sellers can get such cheap rates for postage this is encouraging sales from places like Hong Kong. Sellers there can sell an item (postage to Australia included) for less than a seller in Australia can post a similar item locally.
No worry, EBay has done a deal to sell discounted postage to sellers. Great idea, except I can usually do it cheaper anyway [PPH will know what I mean]. However, add their 9.9% surcharge on postage cost and it is not quite as attractive after all.
Call me a cynic (no offense because I am) but, I wonder what is in it for eBay with the special arrangements with Australia Post -you know, that large organisation that is always complaining how much money they lose. Surely they can't afford to discount their rates and slip a sweetener to eBay?

And, some collateral damage...Australia post does not pay franchisees a cent for handling eBay sold postage items -that is postage that they would previously sold and obtained a (miserly) commission. There has been much publicity locally about the Gulgong LPO (Licensed Post Office) closing down. Income from AP commissions is now inadequate to provide a living income to the franchisees. This in a town of around 2,500 population and almost as many again in close, rural areas. Nearest official PO is 29km away. And AP is selling postage items -mailing boxes, satchels, registered post envelopes and such- on line (same price as your LPO and free postage to you) -choice of AP site or AP eBay shop for this. That sucks!

Where will it all end?
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Australian coin

ebay does gouge a lot, and if I had another choice I would
but they hold the market
if forum member like a item that has been put up on flee bay then they can always flick me a message

nealeffendi

Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='55113' dateline='1405932886'ebay does gouge a lot, and if I had another choice I would
but they hold the market
if forum member like a item that has been put up on flee bay then they can always flick me a message

It is hard to know which member is which eBay site. Outside of emu you guys(girls) use a fleabay handle that doesn't match your real name or your ACF handle.
Maybe ACF should have a section in Buy/Sell where each ACF member who sells on eBay has their eBay handle next to their ACF handle. Ideally we could go to this section, and for example find Trout is Pommystockman and click on Pommystockman to go direct to his listings.

JeffH

quicksales? He says, shifting into devil's advocate mode.
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trout

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='55115' dateline='1405935049'
Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='55113' dateline='1405932886'ebay does gouge a lot, and if I had another choice I would
but they hold the market
if forum member like a item that has been put up on flee bay then they can always flick me a message

It is hard to know which member is which eBay site. Outside of emu you guys(girls) use a fleabay handle that doesn't match your real name or your ACF handle.
Maybe ACF should have a section in Buy/Sell where each ACF member who sells on eBay has their eBay handle next to their ACF handle. Ideally we could go to this section, and for example find Trout is Pommystockman and click on Pommystockman to go direct to his listings.

How does this suit?

http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=2833
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JeffH

or maybe, some bright spark at trademe might have a "light bulb" moment and say "Hey, we have a lot of Australian members and we have a lot of trans-Tasman sales. I wonder if there is an opportunity there?" After all, they effectively killed eBay in NZ.
Thinking is dangerous, it makes you think. That\'s why many people avoid it.

Fr45h3R

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='55115' dateline='1405935049'It is hard to know which member is which eBay site. Outside of emu you guys(girls) use a fleabay handle that doesn't match your real name or your ACF handle.
Maybe ACF should have a section in Buy/Sell where each ACF member who sells on eBay has their eBay handle next to their ACF handle. Ideally we could go to this section, and for example find Trout is Pommystockman and click on Pommystockman to go direct to his listings.

Hi Neal,
You picked a Penny up from me a couple of weeks back. (rob.barat)
Was a 1949 with a very small clip.
Thinking I should stop using my real name when selling though :dodgy:

serial

wow you guys sell much nicer stuff than me!
I am too embarrassed to list my handle as I sell mostly junk I don't want or have surplus of to fund getting stuff I want and storage materials.

nealeffendi

Yep, have your coin in my purchase list (3/6/14).To tell you the truth I didn't know it had a small clip until you told me.
Now I'll have to get it out of my "high grades" box and put it in my "choice error" page ( still in a Saflip purchased from PP).
With all my good purchases recently I've completely run out of flips. This is a problem I like (and PP will get another order soon).

trout

QuoteI've completely run out of flips. This is a problem I like (and PP will get another order soon).
I hear you Mate, I have just had to order a couple more saflips from PP I am also fresh out of 2x2's as well and will have to order another batch.
This is a GOOD thing I think , it means that I/we have more coins now :Dance2::)
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nealeffendi

Quote from: 'trout' pid='55132' dateline='1405940112'
QuoteI've completely run out of flips. This is a problem I like (and PP will get another order soon).
I hear you Mate, I have just had to order a couple more saflips from PP I am also fresh out of 2x2's as well and will have to order another batch.
This is a GOOD thing I think , it means that I/we have more coins now :Dance2::)
I hear you.
It is good that we are adding nice stuff to our collections, but I have to wonder how many times you buggers on this forum are the ones sniping at the last second, either I miss out or I pay more than I hoped if I win. More than once I have seen coins posted in the eBay wins section that I was the underbidder on.
I stopped using 2X2s late last year (about the same time I stopped using PVC sheets). They drop dust from the cardboard, I hate the thought of staples ripping album pages and the stick together ones don't (I think they use Post It notes glue, won't stick:-/).
With Saflips I put 2 coins in most of them as I only use the card to write on details for the top shelf coins.
Very satisfied with Saflips (and PP albums), but why doesn't PP have 2.5X2.5 in stock?

trout

Quotebut why doesn't PP have 2.5X2.5 in stock?
Sounds like some Sod cleaned her out of stock :angel::laugh2:
Also I can put 8x 3d coins in a 2.5x2.5 saflips with the aid of a heat sealer thanks to NO small part in the way  one of our members sent coins to me :)
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purplepennyhunter

I usually have about a dozen packs in stock and no one buys them. Then someone swans in and buys the lot and now everyone is whinging!! Just as well this is a whinging thread :laugh2:
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trout

Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='55203' dateline='1406019523'I usually have about a dozen packs in stock and no one buys them. Then someone swans in and buys the lot and now everyone is whinging!! Just as well this is a whinging thread :laugh2:

Well they were all put to good use and I only have 26 left, I need at least 30 for my next submission so I will just have to use the 2x2 saflips I ordered instead :)
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markn

Apologies, I had to delete some posts here.  Apologies to the innocent parties who were caught up in it and lost a post too.
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