RAM's Portable Press Appearances

Started by Goldseeker, May 19, 2014, 06:22:12 PM

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Steveqld

Quote from: 'trout' pid='56390' dateline='1407442338'I am quite happy that they haven't altered the mintmark for each venue.
It is hard enough just getting the different counter stamp coins let alone getting a variety of the same counter stamps as well :dash1:

I don't have a problem with them being the same for the reason stated by Trout so long as the RAM is open about it up front.  If the RAM advertises a max mintage of 7500 but from experience I know only about 2500 are going to be counterstamped at ANDA but the RAM is aware of the possibility of additional coins from the EKKA then it's a gamble rather than an informed choice.

If, at ANDA, the RAM had stated additional coins may be counterstamped at the EKKA then no-one can take issue as they know the possibility.

I'm surprised they are attending the EKKA with the portable press rather than Melbourne ANDA.  At the former they can only counterstamp about 5000 to reach the 7500 mintage whereas at ANDA they would sell about 3500.  So for the additional 1500 (which they could have pre-counterstamped) they will pay 10 or 11 days travelling expenses for 3 or 4 staff compared to 3 or 4 days travelling costs for ANDA.

autocoupler

Not seeking to alter anyone's opinion here, as we all collect and enjoy the hobby for many different reasons. For me though, intrigue, mystery and rareness is what stirs the blood. There is intrigue and mystery to some degree as evidenced by the discussion, but same ol same ol is boring, but that's just me :good:
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Swan dollar

Hi  Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..

Cheers paul

2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark

Quote from: 'Swan dollar' pid='56409' dateline='1407458737'Hi  Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..

Cheers paul


2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark

runway

Quote from: 'Swan dollar' pid='56409' dateline='1407458737'Hi  Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..

Cheers paul


2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark


Quote from: 'Swan dollar' pid='56409' dateline='1407458737'Hi  Runaway..
I have a couple of those virgin coins..

Cheers paul


2007 Eureka stockade missing mint mark
Certainly unique since there is no such thing as a 2007 Eureka stockade coin from RAM  :dodgy:
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nealeffendi

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='56362' dateline='1407404376'
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA).  Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.

It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Wouldn't it be easier just to use a different font? Look at the S on the wartime silver, some had a serif and some were sans serif. Perhaps a normal B and an italics B to differentiate ANDA and EKKA?

interest

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='59254' dateline='1410873955'
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='56362' dateline='1407404376'
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA).  Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.

It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Wouldn't it be easier just to use a different font? Look at the S on the wartime silver, some had a serif and some were sans serif. Perhaps a normal B and an italics B to differentiate ANDA and EKKA?
It surely would, but do you think they care enough to want to do that?
I'm sorry but I don't think they do.
The pre stamped "S" coins that were unsold at the Royal Easter Show were taken to the Rotary exhibition, those still unsold coins will be taken to the ANDA show.

autocoupler

Quote from: 'nealeffendi' pid='59254' dateline='1410873955'Wouldn't it be easier just to use a different font? Look at the S on the wartime silver, some had a serif and some were sans serif. Perhaps a normal B and an italics B to differentiate ANDA and EKKA?

I don't know the answer to that. I guess it depends on how much effort is required to produce a punch with a different font, compared to adding just a dot. So long as we end up with one product that is distinguishable from another.
As we age we lose three things, one is our memory and arrrrr I've forgotten the other two!

ausjack

After seeing the brissie anda I can't see how it would be that hard to make one in a square, one in a circle, one in a star or what ever shape they want as it's only the tiny little B that got stamped as the coins were done and then it would be easier for the collector to pick them if they're into that sort of thing..just a though and don't think the mint would listen.
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autocoupler

A little bird tells me the portable press will not be attending the usual coin shows this year. No mention of the agricultural shows though.
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runway

RAM "should" be supporting ANDA shows with portable press attendance I hope so anyway
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Goldseeker

Why should the RAM support ANDA when there is a much bigger attendance at the Agricultural Shows?

I am a firm believer that if the RAM attends ANDA Shows, then the attendance is high providing the Portable press is with them, but when the RAM does not have the Portable press at the ANDA Shows, then attendance is quite poor.
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runway

The RAM has generally supported ANDA shows as well as the Agricultural shows
http://agencysearch.australia.gov.au/search/search.cgi?query=ANDA&collection=agencies&form=simple&profile=mint&start_rank=11
I'm sure the RAM dealers who attend ANDA shows appreciate the RAM mobile press attendance
http://www.ramint.gov.au/designs/dealers/index.cfm
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Goldseeker

It is the Portable Press that attracts people and not ANDA.
Message rec\'d from Jens Coins 18 Jul 23: 
Bruce Mansfield passed away today 18 Jul 2023 – Acute Myeloid Leukemia