RAM's Portable Press Appearances

Started by Goldseeker, May 19, 2014, 06:22:12 PM

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ausjack

yeah me too, but like they say about water and a ducks back :)
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runway

Hey Interest ... good effort OMG I'm totally disgusted and frustrated what a joke :(
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ausjack

Come on runway what surprises you about what the mint does these day as not much surprises me any more mate and thanks for the emails, very cheeky to say the least :winkextra:
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runway

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='51101' dateline='1401804028'Come on runway what surprises you about what the mint does these day as not much surprises me any more mate and thanks for the emails, very cheeky to say the least :winkextra:
Glad there was no special folders on the day...**** me off really about good intentions when the "special" organisations think they are top dog.I have no time for such groups who seek funding but snob you at the same time ... told same to the street stall holders trying to raise funds via raffle tickets...they can stick it up their ****


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interest

as copied from email.
"The coin press is on the move again and will be travelling to Brisbane for the annual Ekka Show from 8-16 August 2014 where you will be able to make your own 'B' counterstamp on the Voyage to Terra Australis coin. We will also be at the ANDA Show in Melbourne from 8-9 August and although the mobile press will be in Brisbane we are bringing along pre-stamped 'M' counterstamp coins for sale to make sure you don't miss out."

Now that's novel.

Plus the fact that we already have the "B" counterstamp from the ANDA show.
 That makes three different kinds of "S"counterstamps from Sydney.
Two different kinds of "B" counterstamps so far, from Brisbane.
It's all getting too much!!

Mister T

So I guess the packaging will be the only difference for the two B counterstamp coins.

interest

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='56042' dateline='1406943964'So I guess the packaging will be the only difference for the two B counterstamp coins.
I would think the packaging will be the same.

autocoupler

Will be interesting to see if the parent coin is from the same batch as previous counter stamps for this year i.e. edge reeding alignment with letters in obverse legend. The RAM has created considerable interest with their mobile press offerings, but IMHO continue to not get it right. It would be so easy for them to use a unique punch die in order to distinguish counter stamp coins from different events at the same city. The boys in the tool room could knock them up in no time.
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Australian coin

obviously you have never seen the portable press up close then
- the original die piece for the coins is simply modified, in fact they are only stamping the letter onto a pre stamped coin, they don't make a new die pppfffft that would be more money to spend, why would you waste money on a new die, that's just bad business decisions
- so when you see the coin counter stamped it is just stamping a letter onto a coin
I will look for some pics, its just a raised black square on the original die piece, and the the die piece is just for show so you can see what the design looks like

here are pics I took of the counter stamp 50c die, the $1 die are similar




autocoupler

Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='56083' dateline='1407034494'obviously you have never seen the portable press up close then
- the original die piece for the coins is simply modified, in fact they are only stamping the letter onto a pre stamped coin, they don't make a new die pppfffft that would be more money to spend, why would you waste money on a new die, that's just bad business decisions
- so when you see the coin counter stamped it is just stamping a letter onto a coin
I will look for some pics, its just a raised black square on the original die piece, and the the die piece is just for show so you can see what the design looks like

here are pics I took of the counter stamp 50c die, the $1 die are similar

Yeah A C, I was just talking about the letter punch. The boys in the tool room probably do a few of each letter from time to time, and IMO it shouldn't be difficult to add a dot to the odd one to indicate a unique event or location. But no, I hadn't taken a close look see at the setup before. Thanks for the pics :)
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runway

The virgin coins before letter punch are what we all want to get our hands on,some have escaped the circus and seen for sale occasionally with 4 figure price
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Steveqld

Quote from: 'Mister T' pid='56042' dateline='1406943964'So I guess the packaging will be the only difference for the two B counterstamp coins.

I've got a bit of a concern with this coin.  We had hundreds of collectors go along to ANDA where they paid an inflated $10 per coin for a B counterstamp "A voyage to Terra Australis" coin.  One justification for that cost is the limited mintage and the RAM has stated that there would be a limited mintage of 7500 for this coin.

Now the RAM tells us that the press with be at the Ekka producing B counterstamp "A voyage to Terra Australis" coins.

There is no way the mintage of this coin will be the stated 7500 maximum.  It is irrelevant that the coin was counterstamped at 2 different sites or on different dates.  It would also be irrelevant if the packaging was different because, to me, mintage applies to a coin not a product.

My wife will be dragging me along on Monday so I might have to ask them how this complies with their limited mintage policies.  The packaging may be different as the ANDA folder specifies the 7500 mintage.

Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA).  Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.

I'd also be very dirty if the ANDA counterstamp coin had been an exceptionally low mintage.

Am I missing something here?

autocoupler

Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA).  Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.

It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
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interest

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='56362' dateline='1407404376'
Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='56355' dateline='1407401625'Alternatively the 7500 mintage is very high for a Brisbane ANDA (2012 was 5000 for ANDA and last year was max mintage of 10000 for the EKKA).  Perhaps if they only sold 2000-3000 at ANDA in May they are coming to the EKKA with an intention of packing up when they reach the 7,500.

It would be disappointing if a potentially low mintage ANDA B was nullified by the addition of exact same counter stamped dollars from the EKKA. After all, one of the reasons people collect is the hope of seeking out and acquiring a rarity.

This is what I was getting at in an earlier post, and it should be an easy fix if they're committed to fixing it. One of the letter punches used for the counter stamp process requires a dot or something just as simple incorporated within it's design. This would differentiate one counter stamped dollar from say Brisbane ANDA, and another from Brisbane EKKA.
Gee I can't see that they would be too interested in doing something like that.
"When one size fits all"
All three Sydney counterstamped coins are the same,
Sure one dot, two dots, three dots or whatever sounds okay to me, would be cheaper than changing the folder.
Wonder if Maccas next year will have the different coins from different functions listed, or will it just be a group listing?

trout

I am quite happy that they haven't altered the mintmark for each venue.
It is hard enough just getting the different counter stamp coins let alone getting a variety of the same counter stamps as well :dash1:
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