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Steveqld

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='27907' dateline='1378899807'
Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='27906' dateline='1378899691'It looks as if there's part of the coin sheared off but still attached on the thick end of the piece, tapering off above anc.  Is that the case?

Correct. And comparing it to the other pics posted previously, the teeth are the same. I reckon the same machine did them all, or at least the same type of machine.

Found a 2013 5 cent coin with similar damage:



Some marking on the opposite side but very slight and completely different so I'd rule our pliars, multigrips etc and being so new is in otherwise excellent condition.  



I also suspect it's from the production process but the 5 cent marks don't appear identical to those seen on the 50 cent.

Fulvio

Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='28036' dateline='1379032295'I also suspect it's from the production process but the 5 cent marks don't appear identical to those seen on the 50 cent.

Was it from an UNC bag?

And slightly off-topic, has anyone been able to find out if the mint actually bag them? They sort of hinted at it before pulling the non-diclosure curtain down over the whole issue, claiming "security" concerns. :(
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Steveqld

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Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='28036' dateline='1379032295'I also suspect it's from the production process but the 5 cent marks don't appear identical to those seen on the 50 cent.

Was it from an UNC bag?

And slightly off-topic, has anyone been able to find out if the mint actually bag them? They sort of hinted at it before pulling the non-diclosure curtain down over the whole issue, claiming "security" concerns. :(

No it did come from circulation.  Looking at the top of the indentation it shows the edges are tapered and that seems more consistent with a cog rather than grips.  By "production" I mean after the stamping and probably in the counting or packaging.

Fulvio

Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='28047' dateline='1379036542'By "production" I mean after the stamping and probably in the counting or packaging.

Yup, I got that. MD rather than PMD. An irrelevant distinction to many (most?) but I'd like to know.

Just like I'd like to know the cause of the MD marks on the edges of new $2 coins. Like the above, but a single tooth that goes half way across the coin. And the (possibly) associated error that has a "nipple" extending one of the milled ridges clear of the coin face.
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Ozcoins

I have found these damaged 50c occurring on quite old coins and the damage looks fresh and shiny, so I am pretty sure it is not happening at the mint.  The also seem to have only surfaced fairly recently (maybe the last year or so?) The earliest discussion I remember was on CCF where Larena was being told that the coins were PMD rather than a mint error.

Fulvio

Quote from: 'Ozcoins' pid='28056' dateline='1379040253'I am pretty sure it is not happening at the mint.

Which fits with my 2005. But there's more than one thing going on here. A good portion of the UNC 2013 $2's of both types have the half-width notches, so that's happening in the mint. And that 5¢ looks different again, so it could go either way. But the 50¢ are definitely PMD, yes.
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='27979' dateline='1378984427'I was wondering where I put it ....... thanks for finding it Fulvio!

Did you lose two? Cos I just found its twin. :yahoo:
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Unicorn

Come to think of it ........

(Geez you're lucky).

Fulvio

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='28067' dateline='1379045391'(Geez you're lucky).

Y'think? In all these years I don't think I've ever found one before.
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Unicorn

Yeah, they're not too common eh, especially in good nick.

Put up some pics Fulvio :idea:

Fulvio

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='28079' dateline='1379054737'Put up some pics Fulvio :idea:

After I bulldoze this forest of coin stacks which have eaten all my desk space. This is the part of noodling I positively hate. :(
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r9453

Hi Fulvio! How about a quick wide shot of your desk, ATM.
Two Bob coin collector.

trout

Quote from: 'r9453' pid='28087' dateline='1379067022'Hi Fulvio! How about a quick wide shot of your desk, ATM.

A 360 deg pic taken from the centre of the "bunker" would be good :yahoo:
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runway

I'd like to see a photo of your bunker Fulvio
Buy what gives you enjoyment

Fulvio

Quote from: 'trout' pid='28091' dateline='1379068413'A 360 deg pic taken from the centre of the "bunker" would be good

NOT gonna happen. Far too embarrassing. :P

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