1930 Penny Altered Date

[purplepennyhunter]

Here is my altered date 1930 penny. It's a real penny so not a counterfeit and can be traded. As long as I don't try and sell it as a 1930 then I'm right. The coolest thing is the letter from the RAM authenticating it as an unauthentic 1930 penny.  

[enworb]

Thats a very good quality altered date. It is good enough to look half respectable in an album even though you know its not genuine.

[JeffH]

I agree with Enword. The 0 is much better than usual for an altered. Do you know what die pattern (or possible original date) it is?
The RAM letter is a bonus.

Jeff

[purplepennyhunter]

My penny expert tells me that it's probably a 1932-1936, it's got to do with the position of the 3.

[JeffH]

Now I am curious. Does anyone know how the date is altered?
Easy to remove metal but to add usually need heat (which discolours) or very high pressure (probably leading to marking).
Do these villains perhaps temper the coin, when they are finished, to restore appearance?
I presume it is a reasonably skilled task do do it well.

My local jeweler (and horologist -what a lovely word) might have an idea but he is mainly working with sterling silver or similar. Must ask him next time I see him.
Maybe Walter knows -he seems to be knowledgeable of dodgy practices (no imputation intended; just that it takes one to know one). That doesn't read well...what I mean is that the more you know about it the better you can identify it when it turns up.:mafia:

Jeff

[Mister T]

Now I am curious. Does anyone know how the date is altered?

Not sure, but I always assumed it was just moving the metal very well.

horologist

Clock expert?

[acrellin]

I understand they use a small dental (Dremel) drill and glue to remove and add the digits they want to change. The one that I have has discolouration in the fields around the (added) zero.

It amazes me that even with the new eBay rules re counterfeit coins, some people just can't help themselves - check this ebay listing out: http://goo.gl/L5LoK. Not an altered date at all, but yet another Chinese counterfeit with a rotten description. I understand the appeal of having an altered date counterfeit (I have a few for educational purposes if nothing else), but to fall for that trick is just crazy.

[chookcity]

I understand they use a small dental (Dremel) drill and glue to remove and add the digits they want to change. The one that I have has discolouration in the fields around the (added) zero.

It amazes me that even with the new eBay rules re counterfeit coins, some people just can't help themselves - check this ebay listing out: http://goo.gl/L5LoK. Not an altered date at all, but yet another Chinese counterfeit with a rotten description. I understand the appeal of having an altered date counterfeit (I have a few for educational purposes if nothing else), but to fall for that trick is just crazy.

Looks like Russell has no shortage of them.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1930-Penny/300796721326?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=020&category=170827&cmd=ViewItem

[acrellin]

I saw that - ten out of ten for trying, it goes to show that there is indeed a sucker born every minute.