1921 Star Shilling

black sheep · July 28, 2013, 06:01:54 PM

G'day, I know its probably a bit ho-hum to some but its is my 1st one and so I am pleased to have it in my collection. Happy collectin;)
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stevo1962 · July 28, 2013, 06:11:27 PM

It's a nice starter and probably would grade Fine or getter

enworb · July 28, 2013, 06:30:42 PM

Its probably just me going crazy but something doesnt look right about it

stevo1962 · July 28, 2013, 06:42:21 PM

Quote from: 'enworb' pid='23159' dateline='1375002042'Its probably just me going crazy but something doesnt look right about it

On looking again the date doesn't look right and the star is too big and we know what that means

enworb · July 28, 2013, 07:02:29 PM

I reckon its a cast counterfeit. The date and star are a bit wrong and the surfaces are rough.

The bottom section of the rim is also very odd.

robbiegal · July 28, 2013, 07:22:42 PM

sorry black sheep
I am inclined to agree with the guys too
as soon as I opened the pics I pegged it for a forgery coin
i'm no great silvers collector, but I have a reasonable collection of forgeries, so have a bit of an idea on what to look for

black sheep · July 28, 2013, 07:47:30 PM

Really ? :blink: ...crap
Not so pleased now

trout · July 28, 2013, 07:49:52 PM

I am also unsure on this one, I have a coin in similar condition .
The 5 dots under the star are still separated on my coin, yours seem to be just a squiggle under the star.
I am NOT calling it either way, I don't have the expertise on shillings But it does look "Odd" :ok:

Fordprefect · July 28, 2013, 07:51:07 PM

This side by side will not make you happy, black sheep.

black sheep's on left, Genuine (Cleaned) aVF on right

trout · July 28, 2013, 07:53:24 PM

That is as clear as ice Ford, The stars are WAY too fat .
Cheers Mate :good:

enworb · July 28, 2013, 08:00:27 PM

Hope you didn't pay too much and you can get a refund

trout · July 28, 2013, 08:07:20 PM

I just looked in my Maccas 2013 book and this coin is fairly valuable.
If it is a Chinese Knock off I would be unhappy.
If however it is a contempary forgery then it probably is collectable .
However I tend to think that this has come from one of the "Ming Ming" Mints in mainland China :dash1:

robbiegal · July 28, 2013, 08:49:36 PM

weight would also be interesting

Steveqld · July 28, 2013, 09:09:43 PM

I suspect it is one of these:

http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/product/10091519323079350.html

A quick couple of similarities:

The small mark in front of the kangaroos L leg
"cuds" on the "G" in shilling
what seems to be a small cud on the shield under the emu's leg
the deformed arm of the star above the date at 5 o'clock
a couple of marks on the base of the 2 in the date

I'm sure there will be others

trout · July 28, 2013, 09:13:22 PM

Quote from: 'Steveqld' pid='23187' dateline='1375011583'I suspect it is one of these:

http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/product/10091519323079350.html

A quick couple of similarities:

The small mark in front of the kangaroos L leg
"cuds" on the "G" in shilling
what seems to be a small cud on the shield under the emu's leg
the deformed arm of the star above the date at 5 o'clock
a couple of marks on the base of the 2 in the date

I'm sure there will be others

That is a PERFECT match, Great detective work Mate :good: