Same Coin? Photoshopped Images?

markn · July 27, 2013, 07:13:22 PM

I bought this coin off of eBay (sellers images):

And here it is (my images)

I am about 99% certain they've photoshopped the images to remove the worst of the bagging. Your thoughts?

JeffH · July 27, 2013, 07:24:09 PM

You definitely need a new camera!
Seriously though; is their image of the actual coin (photoshopped) or have they stolen one from elsewhere?

It does look, to me, as if it is the same coin. Remnants of some blemishes are still on their image and seem to match.
So, what are you going to do?

trout · July 27, 2013, 07:24:30 PM

Quote from: 'markn' pid='23043' dateline='1374918202'I bought this coin off of eBay (sellers images):

And here it is (my images)

I am about 99% certain they've photoshopped the images to remove the worst of the bagging. Your thoughts?

HeHe , Welcome to the club mate.
All you can do is add that seller to your "No Go: list :ok:

Unicorn · July 27, 2013, 07:30:37 PM

Mark, if it's not then they have used light to an extreme advantage.

If you can grab a copy of the image from the seller it will show up.
(ie: the 'good' image has no property info ..... but I don't know where it came from ....eg: screen grab etc), whereas your photo has:

If you can get a copy of the image from the seller it will have the photo editing details all over the file property data.

Do you have the ebay item number? (PS: I don't mind if you don't want to share that).

JeffH · July 27, 2013, 07:34:44 PM

Maybe you could send a link to this thread to the seller. But, that probably wouldn't achieve anything -plenty more victims still out there to be duped.

How many members here? Maybe you could advise the seller your have passed on information to XXX coin collectors about the duplicity.

I presume you have queried the seller about sending the wrong coin accidentally?

markn · July 27, 2013, 07:35:07 PM

Look at the discolouration in the areas I've circled in red.

markn · July 27, 2013, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='23049' dateline='1374919484'Maybe you could send a link to this thread to the seller. But, that probably wouldn't achieve anything -plenty more victims still out there to be duped.

How many members here? Maybe you could advise the seller your have passed on information to XXX coin collectors about the duplicity.

I presume you have queried the seller about sending the wrong coin accidentally?

It's the same coin.

trout · July 27, 2013, 07:42:07 PM

Quote from: 'markn' pid='23051' dateline='1374919539'
Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='23049' dateline='1374919484'Maybe you could send a link to this thread to the seller. But, that probably wouldn't achieve anything -plenty more victims still out there to be duped.

How many members here? Maybe you could advise the seller your have passed on information to XXX coin collectors about the duplicity.

I presume you have queried the seller about sending the wrong coin accidentally?

It's the same coin.

:I agree:
the work put into "Dubbing" this photo would have taken lot of expertise , However the seller could not remove the big ding in front of the Kings nose.
Defiantly the same coin but doctored pic's :ok:

markn · July 27, 2013, 07:43:54 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='23052' dateline='1374919927':I agree:
the work put into "Dubbing" this photo would have taken lot of expertise , However the seller could not remove the big ding in front of the Kings nose.
Defiantly the same coin but doctored pic's :ok:

You'd be surprised at how easy it is.

Fordprefect · July 27, 2013, 07:48:45 PM

The original image is taken with a compact flouro light
set at a shallow angle, then
a Clone Tool used to Fix "Minor Blemish's" :angel:

enworb · July 27, 2013, 08:06:48 PM

I reckon its just in the lighting.

trout · July 27, 2013, 08:07:13 PM

Quote from: 'markn' pid='23054' dateline='1374920034'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='23052' dateline='1374919927':I agree:
the work put into "Dubbing" this photo would have taken lot of expertise , However the seller could not remove the big ding in front of the Kings nose.
Defiantly the same coin but doctored pic's :ok:

You'd be surprised at how easy it is.

I don't want to know how it is done , I just consider this type of thing unconscionable, unethical and just outright slimy :ok:
I sincerely hope you deal with this seller accordingly :yahoo:

accumulator · July 27, 2013, 08:08:26 PM

I bet i can name the seller, i'm not going to but i reckon i know exactly who it is.

markn · July 27, 2013, 08:13:26 PM

Quote from: 'enworb' pid='23056' dateline='1374921408'I reckon its just in the lighting.

Look at the sellers images and you'll see that 3-4 of the biggest bag marks are just missing. And surrounded by discoloured areas. It's not the lighting.

wwwww · July 27, 2013, 08:17:57 PM

The lighting angle used would hide most of the marks, it certainly wouldn't hide the big one above the bust though.