maybe I should say No Paypal in my listings

[Ozcoins]

If the buyer had to pay the paypal fees then no one would use paypal.

And this is EXACTLY the problem I have with it...

If the value of using paypal is there, then the person getting the value should be happy to pay for the fees.

If no one would use paypal, then that just proves paypal is not good value for money at the rates they charge.

If the person getting the service ("added protection") does not see enough value in it to pay the attached fees, why should some other person be forced to pay?

I would be perfectly happy to put "no paypal" in all my sales and list buy now items slightly cheaper. and if I were to get less money on auction items so be it.  
Or "Paypal accepted if you cover the fees", or "Discount for direct deposit/COD" etc, etc
However none of those is even an option - they are all excluded by Ebay rules - Just to force paypal (and the associated fees).

[purplepennyhunter]

We've had the experience (not with eBay) with Paypal where we've happily given the refund and the at the complaint stage Paypal have taken the money again. So we were out of pocket twice! From this side I'll always wait for the Paypal resolution for the buyer to get their money back, from a professional point of view though it's better, if the customer asks to simply give the money back and refund the purchase so it's a catch 22 for the seller.

I would not offer Paypal if I had a choice or another suitable option my buyers were happy with. I don't use Paymate, have used a service called Moneybookers, it was all just a headache.

[Bigfellani5]

If I had a choice I would never use Paypal. For all you sellers, don't be afraid to use the banking ombudsman against PayPal. I have gone to the almost 2 dozen times and never lost and always got my money back.

[Goldseeker]

I have had items removed from EBay as I used to state "NO PYPAL, Direct Bank Deposit Preferred".   Item removed by EBay.

[Pedro]

Maybe it's the "no Paypal" part. Still seem to be sellers around who just state that they prefer direct deposit.

Pedro

[lacey]

pp    ,     don't ebay own both paypal and paymate  as well .  ,, kel ,,

No they don't own Paymate.  It's an Aussie company, I was told over the phone.  The pity of it is, not many ppl use it.  I'm set up for it but don't often see a seller asking payment that way.

Ebay owns paypal, they bought it a few years ago when they said you have to offer paypal, do you pau 9% on the sale price and about 3% in paypal fees.

Aonther auction site is ripe for setting up against Ebay?

Not sure whether it's worth it.  

Quicksales are now doing fee free listing and re-listing and no FVF anymore.  So I listed about 100 coins about 2 months ago and only sold about 6 coins and 5 of these were to same buyer. And I've even taking PP payments and still no go.  So my coins will go round and round the merry-go-round 4ever.

[ausjack]

Gee I'm lucky I don't play by the rules most of the time other wise I wouldn't have got heaps of bargin cards off ebay..don't deal out side of ebay and don't send cash pfff..yeah I agree to start with or until you get to know roughly what they're like but for an eg if PP has something on ebay i'd wait for it to end and if it didn't sell I'd send her cash as we have dealt before and I find her excellent so it's not a problem

I was getting boxes of cards off one bloke near 1/2 the price he'd sell on ebay and he was happy to deal out side as it saved him listing and everything else as well :good:

Oh and no I don't have a credit card and haven't used paypal for 2 years but they keep sending emails :dodgy: