The $2250 fake

Started by wwwww, October 04, 2012, 11:01:52 AM

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wwwww

Anyone else notice the $2250 fake in the latest CAB magazine?

markn

Quote from: 'wwwww' pid='1170' dateline='1349314312'Anyone else notice the $2250 fake in the latest CAB magazine?

Hi Walter,

I guess you're talking about the 1922/1 overdate 3d in the letters section.  It certainly looks like a shocking coin.  What makes it a fake?  Not doubting what you're seeing I just don't know what the indicators are.

Mark
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purplepennyhunter

It does look awfully corroded and blackened. Could anyone really say from that image if it were genuine or not?
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wwwww

The date letters are far too thin, the 2/1 is incorrectly shaped, the date is mis-aligned, it's a modern copy, most likely of Chinese origins. Here's a photo of it for anyone without a copy.



Here's a real one for comparison:


markn

Thanks Walter! Anyone have a picture of a real overdate we can use so the two can be shown side by side?
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Mister T

I thought it was a fake straight away because the 1 in the overdate looked too thin. I was surprised the letter didn't mention it.
Some pictures of the real deal are here: http://triton.vg/T22.html

purplepennyhunter

The lettering all over is too thin. I assumed that was a product of the corrosion.
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markn

Thanks Walter. :thank_you:

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wwwww

Here's another one from the same production line that sold on eBay last year:




PDF of eBay Listing

purplepennyhunter

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wwwww

On 2nd thought the shape of the 9 is slightly different so maybe they're from different sources, the flat top of the 2 is similar in both of the fakes though.

dcoin

That one in the CAB magazine struck me as a fake, the letters in the date aren't big/wide enough. That one you have pictured in this thread Walter is a shocker, I don't collect overdates so I don't know exactly how I can tell it is fake other than to say the whole thing looks awful (spark erosion???).

chookcity

Makes my old mate Steele look a bit silly. Lol. :dodgy:
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Australian coin

I know how to tell the difference, but the second pic you provided was also not real.
The one in the triton link is real

wwwww

Quote from: 'Australian coin' pid='1208' dateline='1349400358'I know how to tell the difference, but the second pic you provided was also not real.
The one in the triton link is real

No it's real, the picture is from PCGS's secure plus photo (which is notoriously shallow), the roo appears to be missing his private parts (a characteristic of genuine overdates) but it's definitely there. I will get another photo shortly.



Here's another photo which clearly shows the part.