1923 penny

[stevo1962]

I'm pretty confident that this coin is aUNC  with possible rub marks around "ONE PENNY" on the reverse but would value any opinions thanks

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[Robster]

Looks Aunc to me, perhaps a couple on rim knocks below the date.?:idea:

[MattGold]

Looks Aunc to me, perhaps a couple on rim knocks below the date.?:idea:

Agreed

[robbiegal]

sorry
e/f from me

[stevo1962]

sorry
e/f from me

My reasoning for aUNC is that you can still see the jewels in the bottom band of the crown and they're usually the first to go

[Fulvio]

Does the cleaned verdigris count at all?

[stevo1962]

Does the cleaned verdigris count at all?

Doesn't count as it's a better coin without verdigris

[robbiegal]

sorry
e/f from me

My reasoning for aUNC is that you can still see the jewels in the bottom band of the crown and they're usually the first to go

I am no expert stevo
just throwing it out there - my opinion
rational: based on photos that are not crisp

I based my opinion on the softness of the 7th 8th pearls - some flattening there on the 2 of them & the band below 5+6 - 7+8 pearls
the 7 & 8th pearls appear to me to have wear and are not sharp or clearly separated  - when you compare them to the other 6 pearls in the band
the central part of the band appears to have an indentation (ding?)
the moustache is quite flat on the outer edges which may be more than cabinet friction
the reverse rim has quite a few small dings on the outer which also indicates circulation wear
the legends appear to have some roughness to the surfaces , so again that indicates a reasonable amount of circulation wear to me
the high points on the cloak - the King's shoulder also appear to have wear
 
my recollection is that 2 years circulation = an average grade of E/F
it might be a higher grade penny but to me it's a nice solid E/F

[stevo1962]

sorry
e/f from me

My reasoning for aUNC is that you can still see the jewels in the bottom band of the crown and they're usually the first to go

I am no expert stevo
just throwing it out there - my opinion
rational: based on photos that are not crisp

I based my opinion on the softness of the 7th 8th pearls - some flattening there on the 2 of them & the band below 5+6 - 7+8 pearls
the 7 & 8th pearls appear to me to have wear and are not sharp or clearly separated  - when you compare them to the other 6 pearls in the band
the central part of the band appears to have an indentation (ding?)
the moustache is quite flat on the outer edges which may be more than cabinet friction
the reverse rim has quite a few small dings on the outer which also indicates circulation wear
the legends appear to have some roughness to the surfaces , so again that indicates a reasonable amount of circulation wear to me
the high points on the cloak - the King's shoulder also appear to have wear
 
my recollection is that 2 years circulation = an average grade of E/F
it might be a higher grade penny but to me it's a nice solid E/F

Your probably right Robbie - nice coin though

[robbiegal]

it's good to share opinions Steve
I am not necessarily right
but it's just another point of view on trying to grade via photos
the risk with photos is that the more unclear the photo is, the better the coin might look

and yep, it is a nice coin for the year

[echidna]

I reckon Aussie EF and PCGS AU55

[ausjack]

ok time to rehash this old thread so thoughts on this please and sorry for so many pic's but thought I should take some on the angle as well as straight down

[echidna]

ok time to rehash this old thread so thoughts on this please and sorry for so many pic's but thought I should take some on the angle as well as straight down

Au55 or maybe 58

[ausjack]

:yahoo: thanks echi, AU would be superb

[robbiegal]

borderline e/f from me (like an e/f-) - I use that sort of grading in my grading book
bit stained but nice enough AJ