ebay managed payments

Started by Bigfellani5, March 02, 2021, 01:56:13 PM

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nealeffendi

Auto, there might be life outside of ebay but it isn't easily accessible.
Faceplant is a big no-no for me, for one thing anything you post there can be used by them any way they like forever and you have no recourse.
Local coin shows, they are all shut and even when they reopen it will be the same as before with scores of shows nationwide of which I can only get to a few.
Doesn't Gumtree belong to eBay? Is eBay trying to pump Gumtree by forcing sellers to switch to gumtree.
And where is this enterprising entity looking to fill a void? Trading Post is gone, same with most classifieds and same with most local coin shops.
Will TradeMe step up to the plate?
Maybe Alibaba will be the online marketplace, they already supply so many ChUnc 1930 pennies as it is.

autocoupler

Thanks Jenny. I wonder if it's one of those corporate things where a cell splits and so provides a separation, but not really :winkextra:

Neal, that is one tale of woe. I have faith.....I think :huh:
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serenitystan

Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='124476' dateline='1614815072'
Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='124474' dateline='1614807569'
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='124473' dateline='1614778400'Anyhow, there will always be other avenues apart from ebay.

Such as? Coin shows and dealers are no source of bargains. What other options so we have?

Without saying as much, my comment was directed at how humans will always find a solution which suits their needs. Whether or not this is achieved through manipulation, personal preference or mass migration, there will always be an enterprising entity looking to fill a void. There is life outside of ebay.

On another note, doesn't ebay own Paypal?     "YES'' there is life after EBAY.."Intellect" is the ability to adapt to change. Plenty of Auction houses i can sell a coin or note for Nil seller fees...IAG,Imperial. Status,Nobles,Downies for expensive and bulk lots... :sun_bespectacled:

JeffH

eBay did buy PayPal some years ago. eBay and PayPal have now separated. If you read what PP has to say about the new eBay payments system the divorce was not amicable.
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redlock

Quote from: 'gweidion' pid='124474' dateline='1614807569'
Quote from: 'autocoupler' pid='124473' dateline='1614778400'Anyhow, there will always be other avenues apart from ebay.

Such as? Coin shows and dealers are no source of bargains. What other options so we have?

I have bought coins from sellers on delcampe.net
The website's focus is mainly on comic book, postcard, stamp, banknote and coin collectors. It's run and owned by a belgian guy. Most members/sellers are from Belgium, France, but also Spain, Italy and Portugal. See a pattern? Yes, I called it the ''latin connection.'' But there are also a few sellers from other countries (Lithuania, Serbia, Ukraine). Very few from English speaking countries though.
Hence, I doubt that delcampe is an alternative for you guys and gals downunder.

Bigfellani5

Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='124492' dateline='1615012695'eBay did buy PayPal some years ago. eBay and PayPal have now separated. If you read what PP has to say about the new eBay payments system the divorce was not amicable.

What surprises me that the ACCC does not step in.

When ebay bought paypal, ebays master plan was to that the only payment method acceptable to ebay was going to be paypal. There were thousands of submissions trying to stop this....including the big banks, credit card companies, other instant payment platforms and a large number of businesses. The ACCC ruled ebays plan as illegal.

(On a side note the ACCC right said ...and I am paraphrasing here....we are not allowed to say paypal is an unsafe method of payment but we will anyway.....paypal is the most unsafe commercial form of payment in Australia. This statement forced the government to put Paypal in a spot light and as a result they voluntarily joined in with the financial services ombudsman. They had the most complaints lodged from any member of this service in their first 12 months. This pretty well forced paypal to clean up there act. Around this time chargebacks were a weekly occurance (I have had 2 ever in 20 years on credit card facilities). Anyway now paypal are my credit card provider and the merchant to my website. Fees are close to bank merchant fees and it was by far the easiest intergration to my website....and no chargebacks for years now...so a big turn around here)

Anyway the current managed payment regime is very similar to what happened years ago....sellers are forced into a service I am not sure I want, that will end up more expensive then my current setups for what I see as not much gain...this time round the ACCC appears to be doing nothing.

Basil

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Quote from: 'JeffH' pid='124492' dateline='1615012695'eBay did buy PayPal some years ago. eBay and PayPal have now separated. If you read what PP has to say about the new eBay payments system the divorce was not amicable.

Anyway the current managed payment regime is very similar to what happened years ago....sellers are forced into a service I am not sure I want, that will end up more expensive then my current setups for what I see as not much gain...this time round the ACCC appears to be doing nothing.

I think Ebay's 'Big Brother' tactics are doomed to fail,at least in Aust.
Time will tell.
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Basilstate

Quote from another Forum,looks like Paypal is gone from Oz. but it may be a restructuring or rebranding exercise,time will tell.
Apparently will affect a lot of merchants that follow the 'Local Markets' circuit.

..."At PayPal, we are always working to deliver innovative solutions that meet the needs of our merchants. With this is mind, we are discontinuing PayPal Here in Australia as we continue to explore and invest in solutions for the emerging in-person payment needs of our merchants and their customers.

From 29 June 2021 AEST, PayPal Here services (including both the credit card reader devices and the PayPal Here app) will no longer be available in Australia. This means you will not be able to accept PayPal Here payments with the credit card reader or via the PayPal Here app from that date."

JeffH

That is "innovative solutions that meet the needs of our merchants"!
If they say so.
Thinking is dangerous, it makes you think. That\'s why many people avoid it.

gweidion

Never even heard of PayPal Here.

interest

I'm having trouble trying to navigate my way around Ebay
now they have managed my payments.

sold some stuff on Friday I have no idea where that money has gone
so I have opted out of their new system.

done their survey as to why I won't out so I told them

Bigfellani5

Quote from: 'interest' pid='124792' dateline='1621261652'I'm having trouble trying to navigate my way around Ebay
now they have managed my payments.

sold some stuff on Friday I have no idea where that money has gone
so I have opted out of their new system.

done their survey as to why I won't out so I told them

Does that mean now you can sell....that is the impression I got.....you cant sell if you dont have managed payments

gweidion

Quote from: 'interest' pid='124792' dateline='1621261652'I'm having trouble trying to navigate my way around Ebay
now they have managed my payments.

sold some stuff on Friday I have no idea where that money has gone
so I have opted out of their new system.

done their survey as to why I won't out so I told them
I'm not a business seller but set mine up okay as far as I can tell. You just select the bank account you want payments sent to.
The true test will be if and when I sell something.