Unlisted Varieties

Started by gnome, January 11, 2013, 11:35:13 AM

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ausjack

I can see why mate :winkextra:
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Unicorn

That sixpence is a ripper Gnome!!! :good:

gnome


gnome

Latest find is a 1913 penny , normal 3 as compared to the tilted version, with a diecrack from the rim to the first A in Australia.

r9453

Quote from: 'NZCoinerrors' pid='85304' dateline='1457287224'
Quote from: 'AussieSilver' pid='85301' dateline='1457272610'nice coin NZ , so doubling on a coin is considered a variety ?

It could be an interesting debate but it depends what type of double it is for some people.  The one I posted was most likely caused by a loose die and not an actual doubled die so this would make it less interesting.  However if it repeats itself on a number of coins  I think it is worth collecting.

I like the 1949 3D with the very obvious DDO, definitely worth collecting. So, if it was the die itself that was the cause rather than some kind of "stutter" when the coin is struck then you would expect to see (at least in theory) multiple examples? For me this would make it a variety (a unique die pair) as opposed to an error which might only occur once, or a relatively small number of times.
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'r9453' pid='99978' dateline='1476466256'So, if it was the die itself that was the cause rather than some kind of "stutter" when the coin is struck then you would expect to see (at least in theory) multiple examples? For me this would make it a variety (a unique die pair) as opposed to an error which might only occur once, or a relatively small number of times.

Yes and no.

A difference in the die makes it a variety, because every example struck from that die will be the same, yes.

The number of examples struck is irrelevant. Look at 2001 'Fat 5' CoA 50ยข for example. There are zillions of them, and at least 25 different reverse doubling types, some of which cover the entire coin it seems. Its not hard to build stacks of the different types, but they're still errors, not varieties.
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gnome

Just throwing this one out there as well. 1951 1d PL :idea: doesn't seem to be listed either couple of die cracks



gnome

Unsure about this one 1924 1d with what looks like a T or cross on the neck of the King.



Unicorn

Some nice die cracks there G! :good:

Perhaps we can call the + on the neck Frankengeorge? (They could have run out of hex nuts and decided to chuck a pair of wing nuts on instead?)

Would be interesting to see if another example pops up just to rule out PMD.

echidna



I think this is the same die although a later die state.
Its at the plastic factory so have to wait till it comes back for a better image.

autocoupler

Quote from: 'Unicorn' pid='106885' dateline='1489908498'Some nice die cracks there G! :good:

Perhaps we can call the + on the neck Frankengeorge? (They could have run out of hex nuts and decided to chuck a pair of wing nuts on instead?)

Would be interesting to see if another example pops up just to rule out PMD.

CHUCK :huh: WING NUTS? One popped up in the late 40's, but that was Frankencharles :biggrin: No relation to Frank Spencer though, but Dianna might have been :laugh2:
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ausjack

Nice coins G and echi :good:
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echidna

Quote from: 'echidna' pid='106889' dateline='1489915011'

I think this is the same die although a later die state.
Its at the plastic factory so have to wait till it comes back for a better image.

https://images.pcgs.com/TrueView/83712759_max.jpg

gnome

O in OMN looks broken, echi