ERRORS FOUND Maccas 23rd Edition

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Greg McDonald

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Also interested in your comments Shane about AP.  I think a lot of people and businesses are still reeling from the recent 35% increase.  Do you think they would still be making Holden and Ford cars in Australia if they used the same principle and increased the price of their cars by 35% ----- I don't think so.

I guess one of the reasons I survived 40 years in business is being able to reinvent myself to keep up with a changing world and occasionally think outside the square.  In my humble opinion, I think AP is in a unique position to cash in big time.  Do we need any more stamps showing plants, kangaroos etc, etc.  Let's change the designs into mini advertising posters.

How about this for an alternative.  Suggest the CEO of AP ducks into a local news agency and buys a copy of Fortune 500 magazine.

The amount of money some of these companies spend on advertising is akin to the GNP of some African nations.  Suggest to Bob Jane, for instance, that if he steers $1m in advertising into AP, they will print 20 million stamps that promote an offer like "buy 3 tyres and get one free."  David Jones could promote it's annual sale or car companies could advertise a model run out promotion.  The issue of the stamp can be tailored to the type of service or product each company offers and the options are endless.

If Australia Post was to attract 200 companies doing business in Australia to come on board, that's $200m in the kitty.  Beauty of this idea is no one loses a job, the stamps still come in the same size sheets and once stuck on an envelope, they still delivery something when it's too far to walk.  If this helps the participating companies to prosper, the upside is more profits, more jobs, more demand for products made by other companies etc, etc.

In any event, I think it is just mental to think you can solve a problem by charging more for a service that no one wants. Maybe this is over simplifying the issue,  but if Shane's analogy is anything to go by, an increase in a service that is already in free-fall is just handing more business to the competition.  That's the way I see it anyway.

trout

Quote from: 'Bigfellani5' pid='111810' dateline='1505991266'Glad it finally arrived trout. I sent a copy to the USA the same day as I sent yours and it arrived Tuesday. Given Aussie post is getting slower I can not see how they can justify an October price increase greater than inflation. What a joke!

This price "Gouging" from AP will only result in less people using the service which can only result in further price increases, Quite a stupid business plan really :swoon:
With all the previous price increases I have not noticed any improvement whatsoever in the service provided, So they cannot justify these increased costs because of an Improved service.
The various Courier companies used to be utilised mainly for large bulky items But now because of the numerous price hikes by AP these Courier companies are getting a larger market share of AP's traditional customers that use the service to send smaller items because it is more economically viable for them to do so :ok:

Nobody expects AP to NOT increase their charges over time to match their costs due to inflation BUT the increases in charges by AP over the last few years have been completely Unreasonable and much their traditional customer base has started to use alternative service providers or has stopped doing mail orders completely because it has become too costly to do so.

I do like Greg's idea with the advertising on stamps that would enable AP to keep there charges at a reasonable level But that would really piss off the stamp collectors out there as I just can imagine my own distain if that idea was transposed onto our coins  :angel:
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JeffH

Not only have they not much improved services (tracking being standartd on parcels being an exception) in some instances the have charged more and reduced service.
They introduced Express post with a delivery guarantee (that they sometimes achieve) the same as what standard post used to offer. They then reduced standard post delivery time standard and, shortly after, upped the cost.
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robbiegal

Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='111802' dateline='1505956253'Page 89, One Shilling: George V, date listing indicates 1925/23, possible typing error.

it's a known overdate Goldie

Goldseeker

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Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='111802' dateline='1505956253'Page 89, One Shilling: George V, date listing indicates 1925/23, possible typing error.

it's a known overdate Goldie

OK, I shall delete the entry.

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Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='111802' dateline='1505956253'Page 89, One Shilling: George V, date listing indicates 1925/23, possible typing error.

it's a known overdate Goldie
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Goldseeker

Page 161, One Dollar (Second Portrait), No listing for the 1998 Circulating Kangaroo $1.00 coin.

Page 169, One Year Commemorative Reverses, 1998 Lord Howard Florey, 1998e, NCLT "M" Mobile Press, Value indicated as $2.00, maybe a "0" missing, (Typo).

Page 170, One Year Commemorative Reverses, 1999 The Last ANZAC, You mention both Counterstamp and Privy Marked coins for M
Page 172, One Year Commemorative Reverses, 2001a, 2001 RAAF 80th Anniversary, No mention that it can be found with both Joined and Separated IRB in comments.

Page 173, One Year Commemorative Reverses, 2002, Year Of The Outback, There is no mention that these coins, from all the capital cities, were stamped on a Production Press at the RAM and Portable Press at the various shows.   I am certain that the use of the Mobile Portable Press was first used to stamp the "B" for Brisbane.   This was discussed at length on the forum with Brissyboy some time ago.

Page174, One Year Commemorative Reverses, 2004 Eureka Stockade,   It was found after the Melbourne Show that a AU.ST variety was found.   I believe it was found only on the "M" Portable Press coins.   Whether you wish to mention it in notes.   Scan is available if required.
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Goldseeker

Page 169, 1998 Birth Centenary Of Lord Howard Florey, Values shown for all issues except "M" Counterstamp is $20, $25 and $35 but "M" is shown only as $2.00.   Could be a "0" missing, typo?

Page 172, 2001 RAAF Anniversary, No mention that this coin can be found with both joined and separated IRB.

Page 173, 2002 Year Of The Outback, Comments (a) The last sentence should also apply to the "S" and "M" issues of this coin.

Page 142, 1995 Ernest "Weary" Dunlop, No mention that his coin was re-issued in a special folder to commemorate the 100th Anniversary Of the Royal Australian Army Medical Corps in 2003.   (This I believe was a private issue but the issue did cause a very large scare in the coin collecting world).
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Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='111999' dateline='1506660340'Page 142, 1995 Ernest "Weary" Dunlop, No mention that his coin was re-issued in a special folder to commemorate the 100th Anniversary Of the Royal Australian Army Medical Corps in 2003.   (This I believe was a private issue but the issue did cause a very large scare in the coin collecting world).

Hi Goldie,

Normally I would argue that private issues should not be included, as it opens up a whole can of worms (especially in the PNC area).  

However, in the case of the RAAMC issue of 2003 that certainly should be included as it was a separate minting of 5002 by  1995 Weary Dunlop 50 cents coins, according to the 2002-2003 Annual Report Supplement.

" Table 3 – PROOF AND SPECIAL COINS PRODUCTION 2002-03

50 cents uncirculated PNC, Coronation 2003     65,003     65,003

50 cents uncirculated and RAAMC token 1995     5002      10004

50 cents proof silver, Accession 2002     2,450     2,450

50 cents proof silver, Coronation 2003    5,502     5,502"

I seem to remember in earlier editions of Mackas or Renniks there was mention made of the RAAMC issue.

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)

trout

As the weary Dunlop "PNC" was commissioned for the Army which is Not a private company I believe it does pretty much have official status, Just my opinion on this :ok:
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runway

Quote from: 'trout' pid='112006' dateline='1506674420'As the weary Dunlop "PNC" was commissioned for the Army which is Not a private company I believe it does pretty much have official status, Just my opinion on this :ok:

The PNC is in the guide
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notcb

Hi Trout,

The RAAMC issue was not a PNC  (no stamp involved).  It was a 50 cent dated 1995 coin plus a specially minted medallion in a 3 fold cardboard folder.

The key thing is that according to the 2002-2003 Annual Report, the 5002 x   50cent coins and the 5002 x medallions were produced in the 2002-2003 year, presumably using the same dies as the 1995 coin.

Interestingly the Currency Determination No 5 of 1994 specified the 50 cent coin.   There was no need for a further determination in 2002 or 2003 to specify the 50 cent coin again.  

Presumably once determined (gazetted) there is no further need for the RAM to specify the coin - there are plenty of examples of where the RAM has minted the same coin over a 2 or 3 year period, but a gap of 8 years is very unusual!

An example of the RAAMC folder is currently on Ebay at http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2003-RAAMC-Royal-Aust-Army-Medical-Corps-Token-And-Coin-Set-/330701644922?hash=item4cff5aa47a:g:4QMAAOSwK6RZDV8M

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)

Mister T

Quote from: 'notcb' pid='112012' dateline='1506692274'Interestingly the Currency Determination No 5 of 1994 specified the 50 cent coin.   There was no need for a further determination in 2002 or 2003 to specify the 50 cent coin again.  

Presumably once determined (gazetted) there is no further need for the RAM to specify the coin - there are plenty of examples of where the RAM has minted the same coin over a 2 or 3 year period, but a gap of 8 years is very unusual!

There was a thread on this a year or two ago from memory and I think some of early commemorative designs may have had a specified year but subsequent ones didn't.

Goldseeker

I can remember when this foldered coin caused a heck of a stir on a now defunct Forum.   One chap specifically was paying between $150-$190 per folder off of EBay and here I was selling them at $10.00 each plus postage.

I was able to secure 200 of the folders from the Administration officer at the School Of Army Health.

Ah, memories.  

Now back onto the topic.

The coin was released as a circulating coin, then in a PNC and then in the maroon coloured folder with medallion several years later.
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runway

Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='112014' dateline='1506730400'I can remember when this foldered coin caused a heck of a stir on a now defunct Forum.   One chap specifically was paying between $150-$190 per folder off of EBay and here I was selling them at $10.00 each plus postage.

I was able to secure 200 of the folders from the Administration officer at the School Of Army Health.

Ah, memories.  

Now back onto the topic.

The coin was released as a circulating coin, then in a PNC and then in the maroon coloured folder with medallion several years later.
Goldy I remember exactly the parties involved with this on that now defunct forum ... a certain member was trying to corner the market
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