1955 proof and specimen coins

[trout]

Same with your/mine prooflike '27 Canberra; did they accept (and fail) to correctly add the PL designation without charge?

No they didn't and I am still Pissed about that :dash1:
If it was a Canadian silver dollar or a Morgan it would get a PL designation in a heartbeat.

[ausproofs]

The 1956 specimens are rarer, I'll post up the mintages when I'm at my PC. They're up on the Blue Sheet for 3d and 6d already.

Cool, thanks Walter.

6D' s I can not check as they dont have PCGS photos

You could always just Look at the coins, you shouldn't need a trueview image to tell your eyes what they are looking at :angel:

Not when the coin is 50kms away in a bank vault.. :angel: Did you really think I am that stupid mate :idea:

[trout]

Do you think I am that stupid?

Not at all But you Must have had a good look at the coins "In Hand" before you entombed them at the bank Mate :angel:

[wwwww]

1956 SP penny
https://numisbid.com.au/Browse/NumisBid_Auction_@45/Pre-Decimal_Proof_Coins/Australia_Elizabeth_II_1956_Proof_Penny_NGC_PF_65_RD_18
and 1956 PR penny
https://numisbid.com.au/Browse/NumisBid_Auction_@44/Pre-Decimal_Proof_Coins/Australia_Elizabeth_II_1956_Proof_Penny_PCGS_PR65RD_27

[ausproofs]

Do you think I am that stupid?

Not at all But you Must have had a good look at the coins "In Hand" before you entombed them at the bank Mate :angel:

My memory is not that good mate... :yahoo:

[trout]

All is Good Mate just stirring the pot here
So just how many of the pre decimal proof mintages also had a specimen mintage for the same year and in which denominations ?
Does anyone have this data?

With all the new additions to the set registries I have doubts that PCGS or NGC will regrade all of these different coins "Gratis".
These guys are in it for the money , Not the Kudos and grading coins for Free is Not the greatest of business plans :angel:

[wwwww]

This is from Verheyan's research, it's possible specimens were struck in later years too. They are mentioned in mint correspondance but there don't appear to be separate mintage figures.

Sorry for the photo being on an angle, working from my phone here.

[trout]

Thanks for that Walter :good:
I fixed you image for you

[gnome]

Looking forward to seeing further info and pics on this, just finished off completing my silver 56 proof set, very recently.

[drakesterling]

I agree that PCGS would most likely be willing to re-slab the errant coins without charge But would collectors be willing to have their coins "Downgraded" in value and take advantage of the PCGS offer?
I imagine that some will get re-slabbed but with the majority of these that are already in a genuine PR slab this is highly doubtful.
Not only would the coin loose some of it's value in a SP slab there is also the "Pain in the Arse" factor of sending the coins to PCGS and the inevitable wait with NO guarantee that the exact same numerical grade will be applied, There is also the risk of loss and damage to consider.

Yes, PCGS will reholder mechanical errors without charge. Select the "Other" section on the form and send the coins. If you ask diplomatically, they may even send you some PCGS coupons for use with grading in the future to cover your cost of getting the mechanical errors coins over to them. They will not downgrade your coins.

Many coins will be sent back to be corrected eventually because SP collectors will not buy a specimen in a PR holder (won't fit in a theoretical Set Registry set) and PR collectors will not want an SP in a proof holder (they'd want proofs, especially if they are rarer).

[wwwww]

If you ask diplomatically, they may even send you some PCGS coupons for use with grading in the future to cover your cost of getting the mechanical errors coins over to them. They will not downgrade your coins.

I guess I'm not diplomatic enough, they just send me a cheque which costs more to deposit than is worth.

[serenitystan]

Not very nice for the collector who buys a pr slabbed coin only to find out later its only a specimen. Would PCGS fully reimburse the collector for grading postage and insurance. They should also stepup to the plate and offer a free grading...

[drakesterling]

Not very nice for the collector who buys a pr slabbed coin only to find out later its only a specimen. Would PCGS fully reimburse the collector for grading postage and insurance. They should also stepup to the plate and offer a free grading...

This is one of those rare instances that would not be covered by their guarantee, I suspect. If they do eventually recognise the PR and SP types, it would be considered a change in "numismatic convention". You can read more about it here, under heading: "Changes in a coin's numismatic status."
https://www.pcgs.com/guarantee

Eric

[serenitystan]

Thanks Drakesterling. Have just finished reading the PCGS Guarantee of  grade and Authenticity. They have just about covered there arse for all there mistakes. There is so much dishonesty and bullshit in people today.

[drakesterling]

Thanks Drakesterling. Have just finished reading the PCGS Guarantee of  grade and Authenticity. They have just about covered there arse for all there mistakes. There is so much dishonesty and bullshit in people today.

It is a legal document, so there are a lot of provisions and exceptions, and yes, many of them protect PCGS from human error. The grading guarantee specifically protects collectors against PCGS making mistakes with grading and authentication only. It is not meant to be used to cover typos, spelling errors, description errors on the certificates, or changes in the market conditions. In fact, I suspect a lot of the "bullshit" in these long-winded terms and conditions are to protect companies against frivolous claims, as well. Bullshit goes both ways.