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[keldaw]

don't know what is wrong , it is not a burnt out clutch , I have had one of them when I was younger ,.
I just got in the car , and went around the block and it went perfect ,
I tried to take a pic of it but cant get down enough to see where I am filming , but I think it may be like the pic that fulvio sent , that is my thought also because today it is ok again , but I will not drive it far before I have it looked at , if something happens and some body gets hurt then I would not feel right with that . we are going away up to Toowoomba  for the weekend with our family so I will think about on Monday or Tuesday when we get back home .
 I would like to thank you all for the messages of help and for fulivo for the picture that he sent .

this is about the best picture I could get .do you think it would hurt to spray some wd 40 around up there with out being able to see where I am spraying ??

[JeffH]

Actually my seal theory is wrong. If pulling the pedal up engages the clutch then that would not reverse a jam; just drop the pedal push rod out of the cup at the rear of the master cylinder.
As the old saying goes "engage brain before putting mouth (in this case typing fingers) into gear".

One short time remedy is to just use the clutch to take off and change gears without the clutch. Anyone that learnt to drive with an old "crash" gearbox (apt name for a beginner) would have perfected "double shuffle" technique and that works without the clutch if you get the timing right.
Surprisingly, modern gearboxes with very effective syncromesh are harder to do this with than older, cruder gearboxes. That is contrary to what you might expect.

P.S. I couldn't find any audio for your 'jammin seal'.

[robbiegal]

funny
i was thinking about the old 'double the clutch' that we had to use a lot when i was younger

[JeffH]

It's like riding a bicycle -you never forget how but, if you haven't done it for some time, it needs a bit of 'fine tuning' to get your technique back again.

[trout]

You will have to let us know what the problem is with the clutch Kel, You have us all curious now

[robbiegal]

he has us all in his clutches!!!!!!!


sweet!!

[Unicorn]

:laugh2: ..... Touché RG!!!

[Fulvio]

spray some wd 40 around up there

Won't hurt anything, but I also can't see it doing any good either.

Here's the workshop manual:
http://www.allcarmanuals.com/data/files/manuals/holden/Holden-VT-VX-VY-VU-Commodore-Workshop-Manual.pdf

On page 163 it says about the pedal staying on the floor:

* Binding throw-out bearing.
* No brake fluid in master cylinder.
* Spring wear in pressure plate.

[trout]

Normally if the pressure plate is stuffed it is worthwhile replacing the clutch and throw out bearing at the same time.
Most of the expense involved is Labour and it doesn't cost any more in labour to replace the entire clutch assembly instead of just the pressure plate.:ok:

[keldaw]

You will have to let us know what the problem is with the clutch Kel, You have us all curious now

going to Toowoomba and Blackbutt for the weekend with family ,

wont be back until Monday or Tuesday , will then have it looked at .

[Triggersmob]

This model may have a dual mass flywheel too, so you will have to replace that at the same time.
You could also opt to convert to a solid flywheel. Either way they are fairly expensive, but don't be
tempted to short cut and replace the clutch only, if indeed it turns out to be the clutch.
If you need parts and you don't know anyone if the business, give me a nudge and I'll look after you.

[Fulvio]

Either way they are fairly expensive

True. When I bought my new car, I had intentions of putting the van back on the road, and paid $450 for a new flywheel (the ring gear was stuffed). Its still sitting in the box BTW, because of a sequence of stuffups.

[robbiegal]

flywheel is a bit job
i think i remember us doing that with the old falcon that we had  a million years ago

[Triggersmob]

You have to pull the gearbox off to do the clutch anyway, so doing
the flywheel is just a matter of undoing another 6 bolts or so.

[trout]

I had to replace a clutch in a Mini Moke once, Now THAT was a nightmare :dash1: