2016 Greg McDonald

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trout

I am sorry to burst all the "Young Un's" Bubble here But a great number of us Old Farts or "Dinosaurs" as some have quaintly labelled us Do have a Good grasp of the latest technology.
This doesn't mean that Macca's Book is outdated just because it is served up in printed form, It is what it is and that is a bloody good reference book :ok:
There are many numismatic publications in the "Old Fashioned" printed form and IF many of the so called "Enlightened" tech savvy new gen weren't so bone idle and actually made the effort of actually reading some of these books instead of having their eyes glued to their smart phones/tablets facelicking etc. then Maybe just Maybe they would appreciate and be far better informed about this hobby.

If some of you young Pups think you could do a better job than Greg and want your work to be published digitally then Go for It.
I like RG am a little bit annoyed with people that don't have anywhere near the same knowledge and experience that Greg has telling him how to do his job :(

End of Rant
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ausproofs

Hi All,
Just to set the record straight, I did not suggest that I am a numismatic expert, know everything about life, Greg should stop producing printed books or I am a genius. All I said was if Greg can produce a digital form of the book he might get bit more market share, Greg can publish his valuable book bit faster than a printed copy (ie no printing, no distribution to sales agents and then to the end consumer) via a digital method. This is as well as a printed  copy. Again I said that with good intentions towards Greg. If Greg's target market is only people buying printed book, then no need to worry about any digital methods.
It is disheartening to see people gets personal and take it down to a very immature levels when they dont agree with someone else's opinion. I did not target any individual or a group, thats why I put an apology in my post. Good luck to Greg and his book. Hopefully I will see it available for sale soon.
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Basil

Quote from: 'trout' pid='110771' dateline='1502548413'I am sorry to burst all the "Young Un's" Bubble here But a great number of us Old Farts or "Dinosaurs" as some have quaintly labelled us Do have a Good grasp of the latest technology.


I'm a similar age to you Jim and agree 100% with your thoughts but it is time for a Digital Copy to be out there even if its provided with the Book sale.
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trout

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Quote from: 'trout' pid='110771' dateline='1502548413'I am sorry to burst all the "Young Un's" Bubble here But a great number of us Old Farts or "Dinosaurs" as some have quaintly labelled us Do have a Good grasp of the latest technology.


I'm a similar age to you Jim and agree 100% with your thoughts but it is time for a Digital Copy to be out there even if its provided with the Book sale.

The major drawback with a digital copy is that it would be "Pirated" En Mass pretty much as soon as it was published and as this publication is pretty much Greg's main source of income he would be foolhardy to do this.
It's all well and good to say that a digital copy would be highly useful and acceptable and I agree with this.
The sad truth is that the majority of people would get a free pirate copy instead of paying for it and Greg would be out of business.
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Basil

Quote from: 'trout' pid='110778' dateline='1502583237'The major drawback with a digital copy is that it would be "Pirated" En Mass pretty much as soon as it was published and as this publication is pretty much Greg's main source of income he would be foolhardy to do this.
It's all well and good to say that a digital copy would be highly useful and acceptable and I agree with this.
The sad truth is that the majority of people would get a free pirate copy instead of paying for it and Greg would be out of business.

Not these days Jim(depending on the Soft Ware),basic SW that allows the download to be only viewed on the Device it was downloaded to is not expensive and stops the majority of people thwarting it.More exotic SW that can't be hacked,stops people printing copies and has a limited life eg.,1 year,can be expensive but well worth Greg looking at.
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nealeffendi

Quote from: 'Basil' pid='110781' dateline='1502590086'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='110778' dateline='1502583237'The major drawback with a digital copy is that it would be "Pirated" En Mass pretty much as soon as it was published and as this publication is pretty much Greg's main source of income he would be foolhardy to do this.
It's all well and good to say that a digital copy would be highly useful and acceptable and I agree with this.
The sad truth is that the majority of people would get a free pirate copy instead of paying for it and Greg would be out of business.

Not these days Jim(depending on the Soft Ware),basic SW that allows the download to be only viewed on the Device it was downloaded to is not expensive and stops the majority of people thwarting it.More exotic SW that can't be hacked,stops people printing copies and has a limited life eg.,1 year,can be expensive but well worth Greg looking at.
So unlike my hard copies that I keep forever the digital download goes poof after a year? :-/ And if my device that I download to gets lost/broken or gets hacked or otherwise becomes unusable then at any time I have lost my years subscription?:to_pick_ones_nose_eat: And I cannot photocopy/print out a page from the eBook because the software stops me?:@ I also like the fact that I can lend my hard copy to another person for a few minutes at a coin sale without the risk of my device getting compromised. I also like that I can pencil in notes into my hard copy (like sale prices) to view years later.
I can go and see details in my 35 year old Renniks any time I want. From that era I also have several floppy disks of research data (I was a lab tech) that I cannot view as I don't have a device that can play them, in the same vein I doubt that I would be able to view any electronic book that I purchase today in well less than 35 years  (along with my VHS tapes, cassette tapes etc). I print hard copies of all my coin research and want hard copies of my books and magazines.

Basil

Yeah,mostly valid points but the younger generation are mostly only into Digital even at School now,that's why i suggested a Digital Copy be tied to a Book sale.
Anyway probably a moot point as by the tone of things Greg is winding things down.
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purplepennyhunter

Let's take it easy here peoples or I will have to start editing. And my editing usually involves mass deletion and in that case we often lose important informative information. I would ask that we refrain from rudeness and think about what we type and how that affects our members and their feelings. I understand it's easy to hide behind a keyboard or comment without considering others. Yes we are allowed opinions but they can be put forward in a respectful way and I know Greg is always happy for critical feedback as it does help with future editions. Just say it nicely or provide it to Greg privately.
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Hercules

Quote from: 'Basil' pid='110781' dateline='1502590086'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='110778' dateline='1502583237'The major drawback with a digital copy is that it would be "Pirated" En Mass pretty much as soon as it was published and as this publication is pretty much Greg's main source of income he would be foolhardy to do this.
It's all well and good to say that a digital copy would be highly useful and acceptable and I agree with this.
The sad truth is that the majority of people would get a free pirate copy instead of paying for it and Greg would be out of business.

Not these days Jim(depending on the Soft Ware),basic SW that allows the download to be only viewed on the Device it was downloaded to is not expensive and stops the majority of people thwarting it.More exotic SW that can't be hacked,stops people printing copies and has a limited life eg.,1 year,can be expensive but well worth Greg looking at.

That's the main reason I don't buy eBooks - because I lose access to them the moment I buy a new hard drive or reformat an old one, thereby requiring me to buy the eBook all over again. There's also the possibility that the author or publisher will withdraw your rights to read the eBook in future, thereby preventing you from getting the information that you need. Although I'm sure that Greg would never do this, it's good to know that if the book is ever withdrawn from sale, I'll still have a permanent copy of it. ;)

frenc11

is it out yet , my 10 yr old daughter wants to buy it for me for fathers day , or should i tell her to buy me something else????

humpybong

Now I don not know if this is fact or fiction....but a dealer told me that the book has been printed for some time but Greg did not want to release it because Renniks book had been released and would reduce his sales?
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Hercules

Quote from: 'humpybong' pid='110944' dateline='1503399961'Now I don not know if this is fact or fiction....but a dealer told me that the book has been printed for some time but Greg did not want to release it because Renniks book had been released and would reduce his sales?

My understanding was that he was going to release it just before Christmas last year, but decided to delay it until February so he wouldn't have to compete with Renniks. Unfortunately, we're still waiting for it, so I can only assume that he's still trying to improve the layout of it.

Bigfellani5

it was delayed for a number of reasons including medical and personal issues. It was supposed to be out end of July but posted elsewhere on this form new ETA is late August.

frenc11

Quote from: 'Bigfellani5' pid='110963' dateline='1503458124'it was delayed for a number of reasons including medical and personal issues. It was supposed to be out end of July but posted elsewhere on this form new ETA is late August.
does that mean i will be reading it on fathers day

runway

Quote from: 'Bigfellani5' pid='110963' dateline='1503458124'it was delayed for a number of reasons including medical and personal issues. It was supposed to be out end of July but posted elsewhere on this form new ETA is late August.
Thanks Shane :wavemulticolor:
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