NZ 2014 20 Cent Die Varieties

[NZCoinerrors]

Wide and narrow-date varieties of 2014 20c confirmed, on my website. This was published by the Numismatic Society of Auckland Mintmark magazine June 2016, no. 381.  No photos or further information were provided so I was asked to look into (noodle away) to find and photograph the variety.

When the "narrow-date" (Type 2) coins first appeared in circulation it was clear that both obverse and reverse dies had been recut compared to the 2008 coins. Both sides of the newly discovered "wide-date" (Type 1) coins match the 2008 types, however, and would therefore appear to be earlier strikes than the Type 2 coins. It's interesting that the dies were recut part-way through the 2014 production run.

Link here

http://www.coinerrors.nz/coins/new-zealand-decimal/20-cent/2006-2/2014-20c-die-varieties/

[gnome]

Nice one,

[Nevol]

Very nice variety, and easy to spot too. :yahoo:

Since the NZ coins size were reduced, we don't see many of the new size 20c here now.  Still get the odd large size ones though.

I believe I may have 2 of the 2014 20c, so will have to see if I can get my brain into gear to find them so I can check them. :angel:

[Nevol]

Found 'em, both narrow date. Rats!  :ireful:

[NZCoinerrors]

Hard luck Nevol

They do seem rather hard to find at the moment so far 27 2014 Wide date coins in 7k mixed years (2006,2008 & 2014) searched for me.  These coins are rolled by a security company in Wellington from coins all over the lower north island.   I withdrew 10,000 coins from the bank to try and get a sample of what is currently around but it will be interesting to see if they get easier to find in the future

[Triggersmob]

Found 'em, both narrow date. Rats!  :ireful:

Ditto.  

[Unicorn]

Great images NZC!!! :good:

[NZCoinerrors]

Great images NZC!!! :good:

Thanks Unicorn .  Still a work in progress as money and time permits

[gnome]

Looks like the irb may be a bit different as well from the pics.

[translateltd]

Looks like the irb may be a bit different as well from the pics.

The whole obv detail is different - higher relief to HM's hair, for example, as well as the bolder, more even designer's initials on the Type II coin.  Ditto the reverse - much sharper detail all over.

Martin
NZ

[gnome]

Ok cheers, I skipped straight to the pics without viewing the article.

[trout]

Could it be something quite simple like an increase in the pressure that the coins are struck at that would give a more detailed strike on the coin ??

[Fulvio]

Could it be something quite simple like an increase in the pressure that the coins are struck at that would give a more detailed strike on the coin ??

Not if both are fully struck with clean dies.

A light strike will lose detail, but is easy to pick with the low parts of the design. Think of the 2003 Volunteers 50¢ as a classic example of a design that made it really easy to spot even minor pressure changes. The fireman at the top all but disappeared into the field on the lightest.

Fill can mask some detail and not others, but again its easy to spot. Even if we then debate whether say a missing leg is fill or light strike.

But if both are absent, more pressure won't add extra detail, nor raise the profile. The design is what it is, and to add depth or detail, you need to cut new dies. Which clearly they've done with this coin. I may just have to get my hands on a pair to check them out in person.

[translateltd]

Could it be something quite simple like an increase in the pressure that the coins are struck at that would give a more detailed strike on the coin ??

As Fulvio says above, it's a different concept - the original dies (or the hubs used to make the dies) get worn over time and need to be recut.  Though even the original 2006 coins didn't have the depth of detail that can be seen in the Type II 2014s: I just looked at the reverse of a 2006 that came out of a mint roll and put it alongside the reverses of the Type I and II 2014s, and it was a clear match for the softer detail of the Type I.

While the Queen's hair is certainly much sharper with the new dies, I think the figure of Pukaki on the reverse has, paradoxically, lost some contrast: since the whole figure is now deeply lined, there isn't quite the same 3-D effect that the earlier die offered if you look around his legs or the two smaller figures (children?) he's holding.

Martin
NZ

[trout]

No worries Guys , I just threw that out there out of curiosity