Wedding Sets

[autocoupler]

Araldite is good stuff. I once made the kids a mouse house that had a glass lid with a glass lift knob that was araldited on. I reckon the glass would have shattered if any attempt was ever made to remove that knob. But I did scratch up the contact area first to provide a good anchor point. If gluing to a shiny wooden surface it may help if a few small shallow blind holes were drilled at the area of contact. But that's probably using too big of a hammer

[trout]

I have just posted off another 7 sets to NGC ( I doubled up on 04 and 06 sets) and if all goes as well as the last lot I should see some results by the end of the Month or early next Month :good:

I will send the other 6 sets next month so that I will have 2 sets of each and I will be able to mix and match them to make up a set of the highest graded coins to put in the new case

[ausjack]

One day I hope to get motivated and save enough to get mine done, but ya can't rush these big jobs.

[trout]

One day I hope to get motivated and save enough to get mine done, but ya can't rush these big jobs.

Mate if I had all the money that I wasted trying to get PCGS to attribute these coins properly over the years I could get all mine done AND yours and still have a few quid left over :angel:

[ausjack]

Yes it sure has been a battle for you.

[trout]

Yes it sure has been a battle for you.

Yes and I lost many a battle But in the end I did win the War :dance2::dance::dance2:
I do feel a little sad now though because in a perverse sort of way I actually really enjoyed the challenge and now that it is over I miss that need and urgency that was there before :angel:

[trout]

I was just looking through the next Numisbid auction listings and noticed that a few of the newly PCGS graded Wedding set coins are up for auction.
This particular coin however looks like a normal business strike and at MS68+ is a truly exceptional grade for its type, If it was a Wedding Set coin it would be an average coin at best.
If it wasn't for the wedding set coins getting mixed up with the normal strike coins this particular coin would probably be the finest known and would command good money  I would imagine :ok:

http://www.numisbid.com.au/Browse/2006_Five_Cent_PCGS_MS68/32231

[frenc11]

what does that mean now ,and is it worth resubmitting coins to get a SP instead of MS on the slab
i was wondering is SP correct or maybe PL or unfrosted proofs might be correct

[trout]

what does that mean now ,and is it worth resubmitting coins to get a SP instead of MS on the slab

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That is a good question and one that I really don't know the answer to.
Eventually the Wedding set coins that PCGS has wrongly attributed in the past will become "Known" and collectors will be aware that they are NOT business strike coins and will seek the genuine MS  coins for their collections amongst the already graded coins. .
Ideally the wedding set coins will eventually all be graded correctly as SP and can be added to the various set registries as such.
As for resubmitting your MS graded wedding set coins goes that is entirely up to you But I don't like your chances of getting PCGS to attribute them as SP at the moment :ok:
I think that eventually when collectors become aware that the wedding set coins are in fact a far superior coin to the normal strike coins and that the mintages are quite small they will gain in popularity.
At the moment most collectors are blissfully unaware that these Specimen coins even exist and they probably think that the Wedding sets from 2002-2009 are just another run of the mill Mint set in fancy packaging.
Time will tell what happens from here on in But if PCGS had of graded these at SP in the first place there would be absolutely NO confusion at all :ok:

[frenc11]

i think you need a few of the original PCGS dealers to get on board and convince PCGS to change them from MS to SP

[trout]

i think you need a few of the original PCGS dealers to get on board and convince PCGS to change them from MS to SP

I am thinking that it is the influence that  some of these people have with PCGS that has been been thwarting my efforts with PCGS in my endeavour to get these coins graded as SP because they don't want it to happen for whatever reasons.
Maybe now that NGC have got it right first time and have attributed these at SP Maybe PCGS will be forced to see reason and rectify their past mistakes.
It will be a big call for PCGS to do this now as there are hundreds of Wedding Set coins in MS holders that will need to be re slabbed to make it right.
I imagine that there will be a lot of resistance from collectors that have these coins in set registries that they have paid top dollar for being regraded as SP and loosing their rankings because of it.
There is also resistance from some dealers that rely on the wedding sets as a cheap resource of super high grade decimal coins for their inventories at the moment.

It will be interesting to see just how this all ends up in the future.

[frenc11]

Good luck trout it seems you are fighting the battle by yourself , though i think having the SP will create another collectable set of SP coins if they add those sets to the registry

[trout]

Good luck trout it seems you are fighting the battle by yourself , though i think having the SP will create another collectable set of SP coins if they add those sets to the registry

Yes it is pretty lonely out here on the front line all by myself
My efforts with getting NGC to recognise these coins has been an unqualified success and despite my failure with getting PCGS to come to the party I think that I have at least succeeded  in making many Australian collectors aware of these wedding set coins that had never heard of them before and that in itself is enough motivation for me :good:
I have been ridiculed and abused at times because of my persistence with this but that's OK as Usually nothing really worthwhile  is ever easy.

I like the idea of a registry set of these SP graded coins as a showcase of the high level of craftsmanship that RAM can achieve to produce these outstanding examples of Australian coinage

[frenc11]

Good luck trout it seems you are fighting the battle by yourself , though i think having the SP will create another collectable set of SP coins if they add those sets to the registry

Yes it is pretty lonely out here on the front line all by myself
My efforts with getting NGC to recognise these coins has been an unqualified success and despite my failure with getting PCGS to come to the party I think that I have at least succeeded  in making many Australian collectors aware of these wedding set coins that had never heard of them before and that in itself is enough motivation for me :good:
I have been ridiculed and abused at times because of my persistence with this but that's OK as Usually nothing really worthwhile  is ever easy.

I like the idea of a registry set of these SP graded coins as a showcase of the high level of craftsmanship that RAM can achieve to produce these outstanding examples of Australian coinage

well you know what the next battle is ,getting them to start a SP  set registry set for the wedding set coins

[trout]

well you know what the next battle is ,getting them to start a SP set registry set for the wedding set coins

I actually don't care anymore, Let some other fool do the leg work on that one.
I am sick and tired of doing all the work and the lazy useless bastards that have whinged and moaned previously take full advantage of the end results.
Bloody Parasites :dodgy: