22nd EDITION - HELP PLEASE

Started by Greg McDonald, February 20, 2015, 02:45:37 PM

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Greg McDonald

Good afternoon team,

I still have about three more weeks to get the 22nd edition of the book to the printer .. making the release late March or early April.

Lots of reasons for the delay but one of them is I am completely re-working every single page of the RAM decimal and NCLT sections and all the Perth Mint issues.  I've had a lot of feed back concerning improvements and missing info.  I am making every effort to address all these issues.

I am hoping I can tap into the specialist knowledge many of you have regarding these issues.

In particular I'd like suggestions where you think that the prices are out of whack. I get a lot of feedback after the book is published.  This time I'm asking for you to let me know now so I can get it right first time around.

I am also overhauling the PNC section and including sub sections such as low issue overprints etc.  However I am only including official issues...not those made by individual dealers, collectors or those containing medallions.  Suggested prices would also be helpful.

In particular I'd like to know if the Chaplain PNC is official.  300 sets seems low for an official issue but I'm here to listen and learn.

I also cannot find any images or decent issues concerning the exclusive "club member issues."  

Any help will be acknowledged of course.  Thanks in advance for any assistance

Kind Regards

Greg

Pedro

Hi Greg,

I think this thread should answer your question in regard to the Chaplain PNC.

http://www.australian-coins.net/showthread.php?tid=1918

Pedro

ausjack

Hello dear friend :friends: Just don't rush or stress to much old mate and hope your feeling well :)
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Goldseeker

Greg, will you or are you going to include the following Limited Edition PNC's as well?

2014 Limited Edition Remembrance PNC, only 1,111 issued;
2014 Limited Edition The Great War, Issue of 2500;
2014 Limited edition Seasons Greetings, Issue of 300;
2014 Limited Edition Black Caviar, Issue of 100;
2013 Limited Edition Birth Of A Prince, Issue of 300;

There is another Limited Edition PNC that was issued at a cost $160.00 something.   It had something to do with the Queens Jubilee I think.

I have good scans of the above if required.

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runway

Greg don't stress too much I think with our help we can compile a full list of official PNCs including the limited edition ones both Medallions and Coins in the coming year.
PNC would be a book in itself,keep compiling the new 22nd Pocket Book mate
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MobOfRoos

Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='67321' dateline='1424405737'In particular I'd like suggestions where you think that the prices are out of whack.


Hi Greg,

My major interest is in bank notes and in particular 90s polymers.
It seems to me that notes that are rare in UNC are given a similar rare weighting when it comes to the lower grades, but this isn't always the case. Take the VG95 $50 for example. In UNC it is very hard to find and the $4000 quoted in the catalog is fair enough. In the lower grades however it is very common and on any given day there are half a dozen of them selling on eBay and they sell for less than $100. So I think the catalog prices of $260 for F and $725 for VF are way off.
Other notes that are rare in UNC but very common in lower grades are $100 CF98, AN96 and CS96. $50 DA96. My feeling is that the prices of the lower grades for these notes should be reduced.

Looking forward to buying edition 22 when it comes out

runway

Quote from: 'MobOfRoos' pid='67369' dateline='1424484669'
Quote from: 'Greg McDonald' pid='67321' dateline='1424405737'In particular I'd like suggestions where you think that the prices are out of whack.


Hi Greg,

My major interest is in bank notes and in particular 90s polymers.
It seems to me that notes that are rare in UNC are given a similar rare weighting when it comes to the lower grades, but this isn't always the case. Take the VG95 $50 for example. In UNC it is very hard to find and the $4000 quoted in the catalog is fair enough. In the lower grades however it is very common and on any given day there are half a dozen of them selling on eBay and they sell for less than $100. So I think the catalog prices of $260 for F and $725 for VF are way off.
Other notes that are rare in UNC but very common in lower grades are $100 CF98, AN96 and CS96. $50 DA96. My feeling is that the prices of the lower grades for these notes should be reduced.

Looking forward to buying edition 22 when it comes out
Good one and hope Greg can fit this info in for the 22nd
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autocoupler

Hi Greg,

It's always puzzled me why some of the important pre decimal early penny varieties don't get a Guernsey. I concede some are included, but many of the scarcer obverses whether they be London or Calcutta are not. Those that readily come to mind would be the extremely rare 1920 dot above bottom scroll London obverse, the scarce 1920 dot below bottom scroll London obverse, the very scarce 1921 London obverse, the scarce 1924 Indian obverse, the very scarce 1927 Indian obverse, the rare 1931 dropped 1 Indian obverse, and the scarce 1931 normal 1 Indian obverse, just to name a few. There are also a few later but just as important die combinations missing, such as the 1943I with long reverse denticles, 1953 Melbourne with different 5 and 3, the 1955Y. with obverse 9, the 1956Y. with obverse 8, and the 1957Y. wide date.

All of the above are keenly sought after from the major auction houses, as well as the internet.

Looking forward to the the day when these and others are included in future editions.
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ausjack

Our poor little pocket book is getting to big for my little pocket :) Some of that info is on page 79 at the start of penny's and in footnotes auto but I get confused, but that's easy to do :blush2:
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autocoupler

I know what you mean AJ, but it's frustrating when I see any old run of the mill coin from either pre decimal or decimal days getting an individual mention on their own itemised line, while the scarcer and more interesting coins such as those I mentioned get ignored, but that's just me:). I'm not suggesting other coins should not be included, if this happened the book would loose it's purpose and continuity.

I must admit my most recent copy of the pocket book is 2009 :blush: so I'm not really up to date with the true content, but I'm confident the coins I mentioned aren't included which is why I stopped buying it. On the other hand, if the plethora of NCLT products from the RAM and Perth Mint keep being updated yearly, we will all be wearing cargo pants. :laugh2:   :angel:
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robbiegal

the later maccas editions are much better with more photos etc.

it never was really a pocket book as in fitting in your pocket  
but it is not like the world coin catalogues

we buy a maccas every year and will continue to do so
no complaints from me

runway

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='67845' dateline='1425166594'the later maccas editions are much better with more photos etc.

it never was really a pocket book as in fitting in your pocket  
but it is not like the world coin catalogues

we buy a maccas every year and will continue to do so
no complaints from me
I'm the same,Macca Guide is always the bible of numismatics :wavemulticolor:
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Goldseeker

Hey great to hear form you Greg.

I have found a couple of minor errors in edition 19 of your book, but I will wait till I get my hands on the latest before I say any more.

Can't wait for Edition 22.
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markn

Greg started this thread asking for help with his new book.  It'd be nice if you all had the courtesy to keep on topic.  If you don't want to help, or can't, or have no corrections to offer up then do not post here.

Greg, sorry that your thread got so far off topic.

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ausjack

Yes I apologise for my out bursts Greg, sorry mate :(
Is there any special reason why the pattern half and penny and internment coins are in between the predecimal and decimal or just to have a break between the two because I wouldn't mind if it was moved further forward after the sovereign because they're out of my price range so tend to skip that lot and go to pre and decimal section, just a thought, cheers mate :)
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