APCGS Australian tpg or pretender?

[Russ e]

if the slabs are good quality and the grading honest, i see someone trying to have a go. if the grading is bad and slabs cheap, i see someone trying to make money at others expense.

[trout]

So not really tpg either. But at least they both have good reputations.

That is the essence of an honest grader, when they are willing and confident to put their own personal reputation on the line.
In my opinion far better scenario than an unknown identity deciding the grade of your coin.
It makes it up close and personal and far more accurate because of the inherent accountability involved.
PERFECT
Come on Walter we all know you have forgotten more about grading Aussie coins than we will ever know.
Have another crack me old mate :good:
I for one would be one of your first customers.

[enworb]

What are you wanting trout? A slab or an accurate grade or both? If you want a grade then most dealers will already give you that for a fee. You yourself seem more than capable of grading accurately from what i have seen. If you want a coin in a piece of plastic then do it yourself, it would be much cheaper. If you want impartial and relatively consistent grading then stick with pcgs.

[Ozcoins]

I think the major part of a slab is the security that "what you are told is true and accurate"
If Bob the ebay seller says "I reckon its MS64" it means very little.  
If a trusted grader says "It is MS64" that is worth something, but unless its in a slab, Bob the ebay seller can CLAIM a trusted seller has graded it, and it is not true.
I think in theory, you should be able to buy a slabbed coin "sight unseen" and not get a surprise (good or bad).

[trout]

What are you wanting trout? A slab or an accurate grade or both? If you want a grade then most dealers will already give you that for a fee. You yourself seem more than capable of grading accurately from what i have seen. If you want a coin in a piece of plastic then do it yourself, it would be much cheaper. If you want impartial and relatively consistent grading then stick with pcgs.

Mate I want both; I have NO dealers within 500 k's of where I am.
Thank you for the complement but I am in no way an expert grader.
As the years creep up on me I am getting concerned as to how my collection will be sold (None of my family is interested in numismatics)

That is why I am concerned with getting the better part of my collection slabbed (at a reasonable price AND accurately) so that my Missus can get real value for them instead of the free for all on eBay or worse a dodgy dealer.
It would break my heart to see my collection (that has taken years to build) sold at melt or on a fire sale

[drakesterling]

What are you wanting trout? A slab or an accurate grade or both? If you want a grade then most dealers will already give you that for a fee. You yourself seem more than capable of grading accurately from what i have seen. If you want a coin in a piece of plastic then do it yourself, it would be much cheaper. If you want impartial and relatively consistent grading then stick with pcgs.

Mate I want both; I have NO dealers within 500 k's of where I am.
Thank you for the complement but I am in no way an expert grader.
As the years creep up on me I am getting concerned as to how my collection will be sold (None of my family is interested in numismatics)

That is why I am concerned with getting the better part of my collection slabbed (at a reasonable price AND accurately) so that my Missus can get real value for them instead of the free for all on eBay or worse a dodgy dealer.
It would break my heart to see my collection (that has taken years to build) sold at melt or on a fire sale

Just go with PCGS (or NGC). There's no need to reinvent the wheel by starting a new Australian grading service. More importantly, even if an Australian grading service kicked off successfully here in Australia, how will you sell your Australian graded coins overseas? The world standard is PCGS and NGC, and if you want international liquidity, get your coins graded by them.

[Russ e]

the way the world loves anything aussie i can see them selling world wide once the reputation was built.

[trout]

the way the world loves anything aussie i can see them selling world wide once the reputation was built.

I agree, as long as it is done professionally the reputation and acceptance WILL grow.
Even PCGS and NGC had to start from scratch in the beginning.

[purplepennyhunter]

Here's one in the wild. Note there's no mention of the MS-12 grade in the listing and it's been "profectionly slabed so no mistakes".
eBay link

[Nevol]

That seller has a few of the APCGS 'slabed' coins. :winkextra:

[accumulator]

PROFECTIONLY SLABED,besides learning the grading system they are supposedly using they also need some ENGLISH or SPELLING  lessons.LOL

[Robster]

I would be willing to travel to the U.S. on a monthly basis to hand deliver everyone's coins personally to P.C.G.S. and then return them to their rightful owners. I just need tonight's 6 numbers please.! Also thinking of starting a 'Cult' where all my devoted followers donate 'Silver Offerings' to their leader "Bagwan Robster". Neither is very likely but we all have to dream.! Right.!!

[stevo1962]

Looks like APCGS have now adopted the Sheldon System

http://apcgs.com.au/

[Robster]

Will follow with great interest.!!

[trout]

Looks like APCGS have now adopted the Sheldon System

http://apcgs.com.au/

I have visions of acne covered adolescents sitting in a 2 bed flat scratching their heads on a way to tag onto PCGS’s success (APCGS is a bit plagiaristic in my book) Popping their zits and finally realised that they were grading in their own space/time dimension and had nothing whatsoever to do with the real world.
Then one of them turns to the others and says “hay Bro ya recon we should learn about this Sheldon stuff N whack that on our crappy slabs”
The other guys reply “ Coool. great idea , now pass back the bong”

As far as I am concerned this mob has lost all its credibility