My one dollar collection.

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notcb

Neal,

I seem to remember reading about it in one of the very early Australian Coin Review magazines - probably around 1964/5.

But there were other journal/newsletters from individual state societies earlier than that - maybe it was mentioned there.

I wasn't a member, but the Numismatic Association of Victoria may have copies of some of their newsletters of that time.

The Australian Numismatist and its newsletter before it were published from 1946 onwards and is still available at the State Library of Victoria if you are interested.  Not sure where you are, but if in another state, it may be possible to do an inter library loan.

You never know, there may be someone on this forum that still has the newletters/magazine in their possession.

In the back of my mind - wasn't it someone in South Australia that made the discovery?  There was a South Australian Numismatic Society from early on.

Not sure if you have seen the following link:

http://www.cruzis-coins.com/Grading/sanj.html

Cheers

Peter  (notcb)

nealeffendi

I've had a fair scan through SANJ before and found nothing there. The first ACR did mention English/Indian (I have a copy) but that is still the 1964/65 period of Deans catalogue.The NAV is probably the only place I've still to look for written records as the Mitchell Library has just about everything else published from that period.
Peter, were you aware of the English/Indian varieties before Dean or ACR or do you recall if they were your first awareness?

kchan1111

Quote from: 'notcb' pid='61795' dateline='1414992964'Fortuitously, when the mint started on their $1 commemorative coins in 1986 with the International Year of Peace coin, I took the decision to stick solely with 50cent denomination coins and PNCs.

Until recently, there has been a reasonable number of 50 cent coins released each year - maybe a circulation C of A, a couple of commemoratives, maybe a gold 50cents (in a set) and 3 or 4 Perth Mint Lunar and bullion 1/2 oz silver coins with 50 cents denomination.

Exceptions[/i] being 2001  Federation, and 2006 Commonwealth games.

HOWEVER, this ANZAC /FIRST WORLD WAR thing is really pushing the boundaries as far as 50 cent commemoratives is concerned.

At last count I see at least 20 different 50 cent coins for 2015 alone.

Hey I am into 50c too. :) I have the Federation set and the Jubilee coronation. Thought the Australia At War designs are great so I am going to get those. I don't have any criteria whatsoever. I just get what I think is nice. :yahoo: I thought the 2013 Bathurst Endurance Race 50c look kind of terrible so I am not wasting money on that one.

As a collector, is it important to define a set of objective criteria and stick to it?

My rule is: 50c that I think is nice. :P

Am I making a beginner's mistake by not collecting every 50c? Does having a complete set increases its value?

Having read the many posts here I had decided right from the start to stay away from $1 coins. Except for the 2014 mint rolls and Sydney ANDA show one. I have the silver high relief mob of roos - again, no reason other than I think it's nice.

I am trying to collect a complete florin set though.

Goldseeker

I will b e buying the various Mint Sets to get all the various $1 and 50c c0ins plus I will be buying the 26 Alphabet Alum-Br coins.

After having ordered a full set of the silver alphabet coins, I am going to cancel the order.   If those coins were all PROOF, then I would have to buy them to maintain my full/complete collection.

Yes, the RAM is putting out more and more coins as did the Aust Post, (and they still do) but I stopped the Mint Stamps to get into metal detecting.

I shall continue to collect/secure/chase etc Alum Br 25mm $1 coins until I give the game away.

I would be interesting to find out from those members who have decided to cease collecting the 25mm $1 coins, what are they going to do with their collections now?
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trout

I don't mind getting 3-4 different 25mm dollar silver proofs each year but 26 of the buggers is stretching the imagination.
I have however been thinking of getting the 26 A-Z ali bronze coins because the designs are actually not that bad, Even though I think these will end up being as numismatically interesting as those bloody 28 Olympic $5 coin sets :angel:

I am on the fence with this at the moment But the wire is starting to sag a wee bit :P
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notcb

Neal,

I reckon that would have been the first reference to the 1916 Mule - around 1965.   I know Andrew Crellin has written a summary of his thoughts on the matter.    http://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/research/1916-mule-halfpenny-australias-rarest-commonwealth-coin

but as you say, it seems strange that from the time of announcing the find in July 1965, there was already several others found and auctioned by December of that same year.  You wonder why others hadn't observed the mule before.

Mind you, the same thing happened with the 2000 $1 mule - it took several years to be identified.

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kchan1111, collect what you like, collect what you feel is within your financial capabilities.   The monetary value of my collection is really irrelevant.  

In the case of the 50 cent coin, there are very few that will generate more value than what was paid for them.
The exceptions would be some of the gold 50 cent coins, the 1969 specimen strike, the 2000 incuse and some of the lunar 1/2 ounce coins.   The 2008 series I Proof Lunar rabbit (the rarest 50 cent legal tender coin so far with 277 mintage) is now attracting $500 plus.

Cheers
Peter (notcb)

kchan1111

Quote from: 'notcb' pid='61833' dateline='1415016799'In the case of the 50 cent coin, there are very few that will generate more value than what was paid for them.
The exceptions would be some of the gold 50 cent coins, the 1969 specimen strike, the 2000 incuse and some of the lunar 1/2 ounce coins.   The 2008 series I Proof Lunar rabbit (the rarest 50 cent legal tender coin so far with 277 mintage) is now attracting $500 plus.

Cheers
Peter (notcb)

I figured that as much. Downies had a sale on last Friday and it is evident from the large table packed with all these commemorative $1 coins on fire sale that they are a bad investment. :dodgy:

nealeffendi

Kchan,I was in Downies today (Monday) and the tables are still groaning.
I went past them and got a 2015 $1 kookaburra for $27. Nicer looking, lots bigger (an ounce) and at only $7 over current (low) spot I figure the price won't fall as much as all that stuff on the table.
I'm wondering if a chunk of that table stuff will end up in circulation at face value.

trout

QuoteKchan,I was in Downies today (Monday) and the tables are still groaning.
I would love the opportunity to see something like that and "Cherry Pick" the better graded coins.
Most decimal NCLT coins are lucky to get a MS66-67 Grade, I would love to pull out the 68 and above coins ( that's if they are still in there).
Ever since the A-Z coins were out there everyone is "Bailing" on decimals :stop:
I and a lot of other collectors are very angry about the obvious usury of collectors  by RAM and are thinking with our Hearts and not our heads.
At the end of the day this A-Z set may become a rarity simply because the RAM has disenchanted so many collectors and they are "Voting with their Feet" and refusing to get them.
I for one last week would have flatly refused to get these simply because of the open greed displayed by the mint.
Having settled down a bit and actually looked at the designs I decided  "Bugger it" I WILL get them.
I have sent an email to RAM with my concerns and have offered to send them a Pineapple to be used appropriately if this sort of thing happens again :diablo::)
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Dontyajustlovaussiedescrips.

Quoteand have offered to send them a Pineapple to be used appropriately if this sort of thing happens again

kchan1111

Someone on a previous post suggested that the letters of less popular names might be a good idea to get. I've tried to work this out through the magic of Excel.

Baby Names 2014

The least popular letters appears to be Q, U and Y.

The top 100 boy and girl names data was from http://www.mccrindle.com.au/the-mccrindle-blog/australias-top-baby-names-2014-revealed

Only catch is the top 100 represents just 40%. So there is an assumption here that the other 60% is randomly distributed which is probably not true. Nevertheless it is a hint.

robbiegal

Quote from: 'trout' pid='61870' dateline='1415083973'
QuoteKchan,I was in Downies today (Monday) and the tables are still groaning.
I would love the opportunity to see something like that and "Cherry Pick" the better graded coins.
Most decimal NCLT coins are lucky to get a MS66-67 Grade, I would love to pull out the 68 and above coins ( that's if they are still in there).
Ever since the A-Z coins were out there everyone is "Bailing" on decimals :stop:
I and a lot of other collectors are very angry about the obvious usury of collectors  by RAM and are thinking with our Hearts and not our heads.
At the end of the day this A-Z set may become a rarity simply because the RAM has disenchanted so many collectors and they are "Voting with their Feet" and refusing to get them.
I for one last week would have flatly refused to get these simply because of the open greed displayed by the mint.
Having settled down a bit and actually looked at the designs I decided  "Bugger it" I WILL get them.
I have sent an email to RAM with my concerns and have offered to send them a Pineapple to be used appropriately if this sort of thing happens again :diablo::)

you won't regret it
the coins are beautiful - very artistic  - I was looking at a few on Sunday

kchan1111

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='61896' dateline='1415097431'you won't regret it
the coins are beautiful - very artistic  - I was looking at a few on Sunday

Hey RG, is there a complete list of all 26 designs? All I see is A and Z on RAM website.

trout

Quoteyou won't regret it
 the coins are beautiful - very artistic - I was looking at a few on Sunday

Cheers RG, I have seen a few of the designs, I liked them  and they will fit in nicely with my other pad printed 25mm dollar coins.
Just a bit pissed that they brought so many out at once.
6 per year was good for me , :ok:
Aim well to enjoy life. You only get One shot at it.
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