what makes you happy

[kchan1111]

Kchan111,

I have 2 suggestions for you. Buy a bulk lot, you will have duplicates to swap and pay a significant amount less per Coin than individual graded ones. The other is get a Silver Masterpiece set. Not the year they were made, but pristine, legal tender and have the correct dates. You can always upgrade to authentic Coins later, but you will have 6 very nice Coins for less than than fakes / poor conditions Coins.

Pardon my ignorance.... what's the Silver Masterpiece set? That's the proof sets from RAM right?

[robbiegal]

these are what they are -
they are world's away from the old florins - silver but not florins
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Australia-2004-Masterpieces-Fine-Silver-Cat-210-20-Yrs-of-1-Coin-proof-/360779468707?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item540021cfa3#ht_2277wt_1127

but this masterpieces set has some florins in it
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1998-MASTERPIECES-IN-SILVER-Set-Commemorative-Set-/171319458046?pt=AU_Coins2&hash=item27e36f78fe#ht_1543wt_1365

[Coiny Chris]

Hello,

The 2nd link is what I meant. I got the same set for less than $180 delivered. ( less than $20 each ) The Florins have the date on the face, so that is the perfect replica. The Crown is a nice big shiny Coin also ! As I mentioned, still real Coins and legal tender. I really like the silver Coins, they are very affordable and so nice. As gap fillers, the UK and NZ Coins may be another thing to look at. You can have all the years and as you get them replace them with Aussie ones. For me that would end up as 3 sets though !

[ausjack]

I'll keep an eye out Chris and if I spot any I'll send you a link :good:

So kchan are you after graded coins or ungraded mate as I look at a few places besides ebay all the time and 3 are members
so suss Eric's site hera
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/catalog/commonwealth-coins/florins
and hera
http://www.thepurplepenny.com/florin,40.html
and hera
http://www.numisbid.com.au/Browse/Australia/Commonwealth%20Coinage/Florin/
and also like I said put a post up and someone might be able to help out..and it makes me happy if I can sometimes :friends:

[robbiegal]

sometimes it's nice to just take your time and progressively put a set together
 
I took a few years to put my penny set/s together
and still have a work in progress!
it is a big part of the enjoyment of being a collector

I do prefer to see the coin/s in the hand & maybe pick up some bargains in auction lots - the fun of the search  

in the case of the florins - I reckon raw would be the more financially viable way to go & then get them slabbed

[ausjack]

sorry I really couldn't help it :mocking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33o32C0ogVM

[ausjack]

actually pissin some people off makes me really happy especially if they deserve it :winkextra:
Also being debt free and I will be again very soon and also have some very sweet coins :yahoo:

[kchan1111]

Hello,

The 2nd link is what I meant. I got the same set for less than $180 delivered. ( less than $20 each ) The Florins have the date on the face, so that is the perfect replica. The Crown is a nice big shiny Coin also ! As I mentioned, still real Coins and legal tender. I really like the silver Coins, they are very affordable and so nice. As gap fillers, the UK and NZ Coins may be another thing to look at. You can have all the years and as you get them replace them with Aussie ones. For me that would end up as 3 sets though !

Just curious why 1938 for the non-commemorative florin? They look very nice indeed. I want a crown too. As well as florin set.

I haven't stayed faithful to florins. The other day I walked past Wynyard coins and got 12 coins for $2. A few dutch guilders. I like coins with a coat of arms of them. Fun to go away and look them up.

I'll keep an eye out Chris and if I spot any I'll send you a link :good:

So kchan are you after graded coins or ungraded mate as I look at a few places besides ebay all the time and 3 are members
so suss Eric's site hera
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/catalog/commonwealth-coins/florins
and hera
http://www.thepurplepenny.com/florin,40.html
and hera
http://www.numisbid.com.au/Browse/Australia/Commonwealth%20Coinage/Florin/
and also like I said put a post up and someone might be able to help out..and it makes me happy if I can sometimes :friends:

Thanks for those links. :thank_you: I have only gotten slabs so far. I have to learn how to grade coins!! I honestly can't tell sometimes why one is consider better than another even though the lesser one seems to look nicer?

sometimes it's nice to just take your time and progressively put a set together
 
I took a few years to put my penny set/s together
and still have a work in progress!
it is a big part of the enjoyment of being a collector

I do prefer to see the coin/s in the hand & maybe pick up some bargains in auction lots - the fun of the search  

in the case of the florins - I reckon raw would be the more financially viable way to go & then get them slabbed

I am taking my time. At this rate it will take me more than 2 years! I agree... getting slabbed ones one by one is going to be expensive.

How do people learn the art of coin grading??? I find reading descriptions just not enough for me. I need a big gallery of graded coins and practice on it.
This is getting off-topic.

Visiting this forum makes me happy.

[Coiny Chris]

Kchan1111,

In 1938 they didnt make any Coins except for the Crown, if I remember correctly. It shows the new Coat of Arms though. The Vic. florin alone would be about double the price of the whole set for a real one.

[ausjack]

Kchan that's partly how I'm learning by slowly building up my little stable as having them in had is the best way but when you don't have them looking at different sites and pic's people put up here really help but I still have a long way to go, try guessing the grade when pic's are posted and most will tell you what it is. I know it's a bit of a hard thing to wrap ya brain around, well I know I do but look at the fields for scratches and the high points that wear first and also if something is too shiny than it's probably been dipped or cleaned and you can always pinch the pic (and I didn't say that) and post it and see what replies you get as most are pretty good here and when the likes of Eric, Mark, Walter or any of the dealers comment they are usually pretty close to the mark where as I'm still hit and miss but buying coins already graded is a good way to start :good:

And don't worry about going off track in threads in the chat section, it's why I use it :winkextra: I'm forever going off track :blush2:

here's a couple of little bits off wiki, I take my hat off to him :hi: as he stood up for what he believed and didn't let them push him around even if it did cost him, well half the world at the time So I hope she appreciated what he'd given up.

The Crown was originally intended to commemorate the ascension of King Edward VIII; however, due to his abdication, it was instead struck to commemorate the ascension of King George VI. The Crown quickly lost its commemorative appeal and its lack of popularity led to its production's being terminated. 1,008,000 Australian Crowns were minted in 1937 and 101,600 were minted in 1938, making the 1938 much more valuable today.

In 1936, a constitutional crisis in the British Empire was caused by King-Emperor Edward VIII's proposal to marry Wallis Simpson, an American socialite who was divorced from her first husband and was pursuing a divorce of her second.

The marriage was opposed by the governments of the United Kingdom and the autonomous Dominions of the British Commonwealth. Religious, legal, political and moral objections were raised. As British monarch, Edward was the nominal head of the Church of England, which did not allow divorced people to remarry if their ex-spouses were still alive, so it was widely believed that Edward could not marry Wallis Simpson and remain on the throne. Simpson was perceived to be politically and socially unsuitable as a consort because of her two failed marriages. It was widely assumed by the Establishment that she was driven by love of money or position rather than love for the King. Despite the opposition, Edward declared that he loved Simpson and intended to marry her whether his governments approved or not.

The widespread unwillingness to accept Simpson as the King's consort, and Edward's refusal to give her up, led to his abdication in December 1936.[1] He remains the only British monarch to have voluntarily renounced the throne since the Anglo-Saxon period. He was succeeded by his brother Albert, who took the regnal name of George VI. Edward was given the title His Royal Highness the Duke of Windsor following his abdication, and he married Wallis Simpson the following year. They remained married until his death 35 years later.

If you notice the heads of the in coming monarchs face the opposite direction to the prior one's except around then due to Edwards abdication so that's why george and liz face the same way

[robbiegal]

How do people learn the art of coin grading??? I find reading descriptions just not enough for me. I need a big gallery of graded coins and practice on it.
This is getting off-topic.

Visiting this forum makes me happy.

you need the coins in the hand and a mentor who can teach you the art of it - you probably have enough coins now to be well on the way

photos are not 3d enough for learning (me thinks)
I have a grading set that myself and my coin dealer put together a million years ago - I regularly refer to it
my dealer also says that not many are natural graders - he reckons it is sort of a gift - and many dealers books can attest to poor grading skills (I reckon)

if you can get Bob Roberts to sit for some time with you , you can learn a bit from him
I have sat with him at shows and he has taken the time to talk to me about the ways of grading particular coins - in one instance it was the 34/35 Florins & the Crowns florin as he had a big display of them
it helps for the sale but it also helps collectors to learn and aspire for the more expensive ones!! ha ha

[kchan1111]

Kchan that's partly how I'm learning by slowly building up my little stable as having them in had is the best way but when you don't have them looking at different sites and pic's people put up here really help but I still have a long way to go, try guessing the grade when pic's are posted and most will tell you what it is. I know it's a bit of a hard thing to wrap ya brain around, well I know I do but look at the fields for scratches and the high points that wear first and also if something is too shiny than it's probably been dipped or cleaned and you can always pinch the pic (and I didn't say that) and post it and see what replies you get as most are pretty good here and when the likes of Eric, Mark, Walter or any of the dealers comment they are usually pretty close to the mark where as I'm still hit and miss but buying coins already graded is a good way to start :good:

here's a couple of little bits off wiki, I take my hat off to him :hi: as he stood up for what he believed and didn't let them push him around even if it did cost him, well half the world at the time So I hope she appreciated what he'd given up.

I don't think I can even tell proof and business strike pre-decimals apart. :blush:

What's the point of being King if you can't do whatever you want. Henry VIII got the right idea (except for all the be-headings). Doesn't that mean Prince Charles can't be king because Camilla P-B was a divorcee?

How do people learn the art of coin grading??? I find reading descriptions just not enough for me. I need a big gallery of graded coins and practice on it.
This is getting off-topic.

Visiting this forum makes me happy.

you need the coins in the hand and a mentor who can teach you the art of it - you probably have enough coins now to be well on the way

photos are not 3d enough for learning (me thinks)
I have a grading set that myself and my coin dealer put together a million years ago - I regularly refer to it
my dealer also says that not many are natural graders - he reckons it is sort of a gift - and many dealers books can attest to poor grading skills (I reckon)

if you can get Bob Roberts to sit for some time with you , you can learn a bit from him
I have sat with him at shows and he has taken the time to talk to me about the ways of grading particular coins - in one instance it was the 34/35 Florins & the Crowns florin as he had a big display of them
it helps for the sale but it also helps collectors to learn and aspire for the more expensive ones!! ha ha

So the idea is you get one of every grade and that served as a reference? Speaking of shows.... where and when will there be one in Sydney?

[interest]

Mangoes, they make me happy.
Oh, & nudge nudge, wink wink, also makes me happy.

[ausjack]

Well you have me with the mango's interest but what's a nudge nudge, and do wink winks cost extra, your gonna get me in trouble :blush2:

kchan, don't worry it all takes time..and for me it takes for ever to get the hang of things and you just missed a show and ANDA is on the 24th and 25th of october..that's why I'm trying to get organised for now because I'm that hopeless that if I don't the show will be over before I even pack.

My brothers kids make me happy when they aren't little shits as i can hand them back but it's good fun teaching them to fight and also a few other bad habits :angel: My kooka made me happy but I haven't seen it for a few weeks now as they got rid of a big tree that I think it was nesting in but some morning you can hear them but they're a long way away now so hope it comes back from time to time as it really is a good feeling to have a wild bird befriend you.

[robbiegal]

I don't think I can even tell proof and business strike pre-decimals apart. :blush:

So the idea is you get one of every grade and that served as a reference? Speaking of shows.... where and when will there be one in Sydney?
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proofs are an art and do require experience but a good grade proof pre-decimal will stand out esp. QEII - you don't need a magnifier to stop those coins!
yes that is the idea - the best grade that you can get
shows - check the ANDA website

circulation strike 1956 florin
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/products/1956-florin
proof 1956 florin
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/products/1956-proof-florin-3
can you see the difference in the outer edges of the coins - the rim beads and the rim?
now for the humble penny
proof 1956 penny
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/products/1956-perth-proof-penny
circulation 1956 penny
http://www.drakesterling.com/coins-for-sale/products/1956-perth-penny
ps - collecting dutch guilders is pretty specialised - so you probably have more experience than you credit yourself with

I suppose all of that is off topic and I will get in trouble , ho hum, my apologies in advance etc etc