Aussies Who are we?

[keldaw]

another good point ,

my kids have no idea what some of my stuff is worth , so as I give to them to store away for later on , I wrap each item for them
  [ my way ] and I always write on the wrapping ,what I pay for each item [ what it cost me ] and which ones I believe are going to gain the most in value in the long term ..

 hoping they take a little bit of notice from me and check it all out ..
  I cant do more then that for them ..    ,, kel ,,
doing it now ,it is going to be less strain on them later on ..

[robbiegal]

my only claim to hysterical fame is that of being related to Gentleman Jim Corbett
one brother went to Oz - (my side of the mob) and the other, Jim's father went to the US of A. My g-g-great or something like that grandmother was his cousin
 
it's kind of cool really  ........

[ausjack]

:kez_15: gee Rg I knew yous was a :aggressive: but didn't know it was in ya blood :angel: so remind me not to stir you when I visit :blackeye:

[robbiegal]

yeah true, it is in the genes
my brothers did boxing and one of my sons did for quite some time as well , both sons quite like boxing

[ausjack]

yeah I don't mind it as long as you don't get hit :winkextra: did it at the police boys club when I was a wee tacka but I'm too old and frail now :s

[trout]

Excuse me, until; one becomes a Naturalized Australian, one cannot be a member of the Defence Force and defend this country. But they can vote, only need to be 18 years of age and have a permanent address.

I hate to burst your bubble Goldie, but I will anyway.
I haven't done the "Naturalisation" thing simply because I haven't had to.
I joined the Australian Army when I was 19 and was "Issued: with uniforms , boots , Rifle AND an Australian Passport.
I am Still a Pom and am still eligible to renew my Brit passport as well.
I spent 6 years in the Army and met some great Mates that I am still in contact with from time to time.
Even back in the 70's there was a mix of different nationalities in the Army with me and  willing to put their life on the line to uphold the Aussie way of life.
For me personally, being an Australian isn't about Race , Creed or Colour.
It is a concept of giving everyone a "Fair Go" tolerance and NOT being scared/fearful of change but embracing the that change :good:

C-mon you Mob I have read the posts and I can see FEAR in many of them, This is unwarranted  as we are a "Brand New" Nation and we are still Evolving.
NO I cannot see walled communities becoming the Norm in Aus, it simply would be considered Un-Australian and shunned .
I truly believe that my Grandkids will inherit a better Country when I pass Simply because of the diversity we have here and the openhearted nature of most of us .
:ok:

[nealeffendi]

Trout, I'm not sure why they issued you with an Australian passport.
My sisters husband came from England when he was 10 (circa 1963), joined the RAN at 15 and did his 20 years (CPO) as a "foreigner".
He travelled with the Navy all over the world on his navy issued travel documents (not a passport), served (HMAS Vendetta?) off the coast of Vietnam etc.
Funny thing is that after he left the RAN he was advised that as a "foreigner" he didn't have automatic right of entry to Australia so he was naturalised. Had to swear loyalty to the Queen and promise to defend Australia and all the other guffaw at the ceremony. Silly bureaucracy.

[Goldseeker]

Fair enough Trout re your Military service but when did you enlist?

I was posted to HQ ACDG in PNG during the period 1975/77 and it was during this time that a signal from Army Office was received stating "that only Australians/Naturalized Australians would be promoted and all others would remain as is".

I promptly wrote to the authorities and gained my own Naturalization certificate to prove that I was naturalized as early as 1961/2, well before I joined up.   As I was a minor when I was initially naturalized, I was noted on my mothers Naturalization papers.

I know several people who were born overseas, and have had to produce naturalization papers to prove they were Aussies so they could join the Defence Force in the last couple of years.

I and many others were in the same boat re naturalization certificates requirements otherwise we would have stayed Corporals for the rest of out Military careers, no promotions and no subject courses for promotion.

If are able to, give the enlistment office a ring and see if I am correct or not.

[ausjack]

Gee trout and I thought I lived in a box, you really need to get out more mate as I have seen gated for years now and slowly but surely getting more so sorry but your wrong and don't get me started on the religious places up QLD that have huge walls and guards and their schools are the same and even here they are putting up big fences around new estates so can you tell me why if it's such a nice caring place as I don't see that but I do see the world turnin to crap and most due to religion and this so called globalisation BS and fear but are the fears warranted, I'd say yes. The violence is unreal and to see the 'ladies' of today are just so rude crude and really quite disgusting and being a cleaner really opens your eye as to how much when your out and about in the general public. The libs started a lot of this as they play on paranoia and fear, just look at what howard did about the guns etc etc and terrorists. People are that stupid that they don't even realise they lost the war as soon as they took any notice as that's what it's all about, terror, putting fear into something to get it to do what you want..gee look what has happened here recent with a few people that are users and it does do damage and it puts people off, well it does me as it takes me ages to build trust so it tears me apart when people aren't who or what they say..yeah I know I'm too soft but tryin to get my 'I don't give a rats' attitude back like a lot here have, my life was a lot better when I didn't care but they said I might mellow after my op but I go up and down depending on how I'm being treated by others but can snap at any time and smash shit and even people if they get in my way and annoy me but I try and be good mostly :angel:  

here's just a little bit off wiki
Australia[edit]
Although gated communities have been relatively rare in Australia, since the 1980s a few have been built. The most well-known are those at Hope Island, in particular Sanctuary Cove, on the Gold Coast of Queensland. Other similar projects are being built in the area. In Victoria, the first such development is Sanctuary Lakes, in the local government area of Wyndham, about 16 km south west of Melbourne. In New South Wales there is Macquarie Links gated community[9] as well as Southgate Estate gated community. Many Australian gated communities are built within private golf courses.

In the ACT the only example is Uriarra Village, based around community horse paddocks and dwellings jointly managed through strata title.

[Coiny Chris]

Hello,

Many people would like to live in a gated community, but the cost would put them off. Think of little old Ladies that live in Public housing. For that matter, the rest of the tenants that are not Oxygen thieves. The slide down-hill has begun, we have whole areas / towns that most dont want to live in. Funny you mention Urriara, when the fires came through and burnt most of the then village, someone supposedly took the nozzles off the fire hoses before the fires got there. A company got the land to develop, also land under the flight path near the Airport. Now the planes are being moved. Another development running over a year late was blamed on the ACT Gov. No legal action from them. To me it seems that people are being paid off. I have other "inside" info I will leave out though.

I feel many dont see what is coming, and wont until it is far too late to do anything about it. The 70's IMO will be remembered as the best times in Aus. We had our own identity having moved on from a Pom supply colony. We were not the 51st state of the US either.

[nealeffendi]

ausjack, I hear ya. Working security I have to inspect the toilets and I couldn't do your job for quids. The ladies toilets are even worse than the gents (have to check for ODs, blind drunks, lines of coke, fornicating couples etc),do people know that the toilets and not the floor/walls are where you are supposed to go? Not just rough areas but upmarket venues as well. Had a pub 2 weeks ago that sold $20 hamburgers, girls were flashing, guys were pissed and/or stoned. The week before had to watch a detained young guy until the cops came (busted with coke). Those rich white kids have an entitlement mentality that I only see exceeded by the very wealthy Chinese.

[trout]

Fair enough Trout re your Military service but when did you enlist?

1972 I think.
I was just finishing my Infantry training at Singleton when National Service was ended.
Turned the place into a "Ghost town"

Gee trout and I thought I lived in a box, you really need to get out more mate

No I don't live in a box, I choose to live in the Country and NOT the City.
Maybe us Country Folk think about things and treat people differently than our City Cousins.
I have been to every City in Australia (except Hobart ) and to me they are all "Rat Races" Barring Darwin of course, That's Gods Country

[ausjack]

I feel many dont see what is coming, and wont until it is far too late to do anything about it. The 70's IMO will be remembered as the best times in Aus. We had our own identity having moved on from a Pom supply colony. We were not the 51st state of the US either.

yep so true Chris and it's so sad because as a kid it was great and my brother and I were allowed to stay out after dark to play but as long as mum could see us or at least be in ear shot and if we wanted to go to a mates we had to ask and we didn't have to go destroy anything to have fun as that was playing cricket or what would be considered to mundane for the kids of today and TV is not only a baby sitter but mum and dad and sex educator and back then we knew that if we did do something wrong and got found out there was hell to pay and that you'd get in more trouble if you lied but yeah different times because we didn't have to have it all unlike today where you CAN have it all and you can have it now (credit) and we wonder why it's like it is.

Gee Neal I feel sorry for ya mate because it's only getting worse all the time and I'm sort of lucky I don't do that any more, so can anyone tell me how so much drugs get in if the pollies and big boys in the cops and customs aren't getting kick backs because what they show on TV is nothing to what's on the streets and we're talking major quantities so if people aren't on the take and it's because there's not enough to check it all why not employ more people and personally I think we should set up an island and ALL freight and people go there first and that way you not only keep a better eye on what's coming and going in and out but also help stop things like this ebola that I really don't think we want here but anyways just more of my mad man ravings
Barring Darwin of course, That's Gods Country

Your a bloody classic trout :laugh2: But yes way different to city people, gee just try asking for directions and people freak but then I am scary

[nealeffendi]

Ausjack, I've worked lots of different jobs over the past 4 decades and some were in container depots (both at the docks and elsewhere). It isn't possible to search 10,000 plus containers/day thoroughly. I've unloaded many containers and it takes hours for each one. Might be a thousand boxes from Thailand containing a million sealed tubes of ointment in a container and how can you know if one box has tubes of another substance? Or how about concrete garden furniture from China? Might have a bag of drugs put in the wet concrete. I've unloaded both of those as well as tinned goods, fresh produce, frozen goods, bulk powdered goods and a whole lot more from dozens of countries.
In one of my jobs I delivered life sized concrete statues to an alleged hit mans house, other ornaments to Abe Saffrons son and nude statues to a house of ill repute. Guess I don't work a boring 9-5 job.

[robbiegal]

here's just a little bit off wiki
Australia[edit]

In the ACT the only example is Uriarra Village, based around community horse paddocks and dwellings jointly managed through strata title.

Hey guys
that gated community is just up the road from where I live ha ha
country-style gating!!!

but I go up and down depending on how I'm being treated by others but can snap at any time and smash shit and even people if they get in my way and annoy me but I try and be good mostly :angel:  

hey wot is this about???
you're making me nervous AJ ......