CLOSED Shameless Self Promotion - 1952 Shilling in PCGS MS66

[markn]

This why it is a great opportunity for me personally to test that theory by looking at the 2 coins side by side.
If they are identical quality coins then I will have to agree with you But if the MS65 coin is not as nice as the MS66 coin then that would make the 2 companies on a par.
As these are totally random coins I would think this is a far test.

You're going to need a much bigger sample size of coins than two to be able to make a fair comparison or learn anything.  But I admire your intent.

[markn]

I have tested NGC out previously by sending a 1938 Crown graded AU58 by PCGS that I "Cracked out" and it came back in an NGC slab as AU58

Uh, you seem to have forgotten about your ducat that was an NGC MS63, no graded at PCGS and then graded MS65 at NGC.

[trout]

You're going to need a much bigger sample size of coins than two to be able to make a fair comparison or learn anything. But I admire your intent.

I agree that the sample is small but if we can do this a few more times we will get an accurate assessment eventually. :good:
Are you willing to have a look for me and send the coins to Peter when you are done with them?
If so all I need is for Emu to come to the party and Beyond Blue will be the ultimate winner at the end of the day :yahoo:
Maybe we could get Walter and his brother  in on this as well

I have tested NGC out previously by sending a 1938 Crown graded AU58 by PCGS that I "Cracked out" and it came back in an NGC slab as AU58

Uh, you seem to have forgotten about your ducat that was an NGC MS63, no graded at PCGS and then graded MS65 at NGC.

You and I both know that PCGS "Got it wrong" on that coin and I for one totally disagreed with their assessment of the coin  :ok:
As for the 2 grade jump by NGC then that is a little strange or the original graders may have been "Tough" on it.

Both of these companies are grading to the same system (Sheldon) and both are World renowned For their accuracy ( Neither are Perfect) So I would assume that they grade their coins the same.
Just out of curiosity I may send the Ducat back to PCGS as a "Crossover" and see what happens there.:angel:

[markn]

The auction for this coin is now live.  Scheduled to finish Sunday June 1 at about 8PM eastern time.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281344402329

[stevo1962]

The auction for this coin is now live.  Scheduled to finish Sunday June 1 at about 8PM eastern time.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281344402329

And it's off and racing

[ausproofs]

The auction for this coin is now live.  Scheduled to finish Sunday June 1 at about 8PM eastern time.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281344402329

And it's off and racing

What a beautiful coin... Very interesting to see if an Aussie get to keep it here... :idea:

Hope it will stay in Australia

[trout]

Just received the MS65 1962 Shilling From PP.
Very nice coin indeed:good:
I have just returned from the bush and picked the coin up at the post office.
When I put the PCGS MS65 coin alongside the NGC MS66 coin the difference is very apparent the MS66 coin is indeed a superior coin.
I will Try and get a couple of picks tomorrow.
So far so good for NGC , But this is a Minute sampling and more work will have to be done to say if NGC is up to par with PCGS or not:ok:

I just had a squiz at Marks eBay listing for the 1952m Shilling and IMHO the bids are still "LOW Ball" so far and has a long way to go to be fair value for that coin :ok:

[ausjack]

Gee mate I'll have to call you the slab king if ya keep going :laugh2: Sounds like your getting quite the stable so I really am gonna have to come for a visit..and maybe look at a few coins :friends:

[trout]

Gee mate I'll have to call you the slab king

FAR from it Mate :ok:
But the upward learning curve as far as grading goes is worth every penny spent on slabbing.
When you put yourself up against the graders at PCGS and NGC you quickly learn to reassess your abilities and look at your coins harder and in a new light.
I do recommend every collector to get at least 3-5 coins graded just so that they can see how they are going at self grading coins.
It is NOT a huge outlay and the rewards are priceless as far as a reality check goes .

[robbiegal]

i think that you may need to make sure that you compare like with like too
i.e. 1962 shilling against another 1962 shilling

I believe that there are significant strike type and differences between the years and the Perth and Melbourne mints

so, for example a Melbourne 1964 MS 64 penny will look completely different to the Perth even in the 'same' grade & colour designation

[trout]

think that you may need to make sure that you compare like with like too
 i.e. 1962 shilling against another 1962 shilling

That is Exactly what I did RG.
2x coins from the same mint , Both were 1962 Shillings :ok:

[robbiegal]

you are a good boy

[ausjack]

gee Rg don't tell'im that or it'll go to is ead

[emu666]

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Hey Mark.


They've hijacked your thread!!!!

[robbiegal]

dunno really
I think that started about 4 pages ago
maybe by about post number 9 or so ha ha
ebay listing link
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281344402329#shpCntId

Back on Topic

Australia 1952 Shilling in PCGS MS66.  Single finest graded as of May 2014.  Will be auctioned with a 99c start on eBay starting 22 May and ending Sunday June 1.  

http://www.thepurplepenny.com/1281,australia-1952m-shilling-1s-gem-uncirculated-pcgs-ms66.html