Have you been a Numisbid winner today?

[ausjack]

Mmm good questions as they are sort of hypothetical to start as they are only estimates and anything can happen on the day so this is where your homework comes in because if you were to go off a few price guides you really can't as some coins have a fair price range between books so you also have to suss things like completed listing and blue and green sheets etc and PCGS pop report depending on how full on you want to go and if you have to have the very best. I'm very happy with seconds as some top tear coins jump too much so for an eg I'm trying to build 56 and 58 proof sets and I have a pr66 on hold and it's a couple of hundred but to get the pr67 I like I'm lookin at a cool 1300 for the 3d so I think I'll be happy with my pr66 until I win lotto but then I'd be playing :winkextra:  
   
Yeah even ebay as I have bid but also done homework and quite often people get caught up in the bidding war and pay more than what they should so I don't know how many times I've seen buy it now and gone to them as it's been a lot cheaper than fighting with someone that must have it and then sometimes even end up getting better deal anyway.

[kchan1111]

Ok now this isn't having a go at Walter so please don't think it is because you can get some real bargains at auction but you've got to be careful and if your like me and actively searching for the best deals around yous have got to start to do your home work so you don't over bid as two of our member had/have them for sale because I was looking at them for quite some time, Eric has a couple and PP had one but someone bought it in the last few hours. If I was going to bid on the 51 ms63 I google search to see what comes up as Eric's was $50 and PP's was $35 so I don't know why ya's don't suss them first to at least get a price guide for the auction as I have found both EXCELLENT to deal with but each to their own but just thought I'd tell as I thought about not as I'm bound to offend some but hey that's just me and I know we aren't all super rich

If anyone wants any help just yell out and I'll help as much as I can and ya's are lucky as I thought about buying them all but as I'm getting more into my proofs I don't worry but still try and keep an eye on what's going on around the traps and bargains of course :winkextra:

Oh and well done to the winning bidders, some nice coins there peoples :good:

Damn... could have saved $10! Oh well...... thanks for tips.

Yes very good point. Really need to spend an hour or two before each auction to do research. Which I didn't do.

I am very early days with florin set so love to hear about any bargains.

[serial]

Ok now this isn't having a go at Walter so please don't think it is because you can get some real bargains at auction but you've got to be careful and if your like me and actively searching for the best deals around yous have got to start to do your home work so you don't over bid as two of our member had/have them for sale because I was looking at them for quite some time, Eric has a couple and PP had one but someone bought it in the last few hours. If I was going to bid on the 51 ms63 I google search to see what comes up as Eric's was $50 and PP's was $35 so I don't know why ya's don't suss them first to at least get a price guide for the auction as I have found both EXCELLENT to deal with but each to their own but just thought I'd tell as I thought about not as I'm bound to offend some but hey that's just me and I know we aren't all super rich

If anyone wants any help just yell out and I'll help as much as I can and ya's are lucky as I thought about buying them all but as I'm getting more into my proofs I don't worry but still try and keep an eye on what's going on around the traps and bargains of course :winkextra:
Oh and well done to the winning bidders, some nice coins there peoples :good:

well don't I feel like an overpaying goose. paid $9 more for a coin 2 grades lower than I could have got from pp
walter that request I made for some sort of a printable auction guide or sheet just became a bit more urgent. its to hard to navigate your site to prepare for an auction unless you restrict yourself to one or 2 items and this poor bidding by me is a good reason for me to back off on the auctions until I can get something I can handle and refer to like I usually would have at an auction

[kchan1111]

I got a couple for my pcgs sets. Would have got more but SOMEONE bought the 1951 florin I needed to upgrade my ms61 :p

Well as ausjack pointed out there are cheaper ones available. So lucky you didn't win.

[markn]

Damn... could have saved $10! Oh well...... thanks for tips.

Yes very good point. Really need to spend an hour or two before each auction to do research. Which I didn't do.

I am very early days with florin set so love to hear about any bargains.

Do your research before bidding on any auction and be patient.  It's easy to get caught up in the excitement in the auction chatroom before hand and in some of the Numisbid threads on this forum.  

If you're looking to put together lower MS florin sets (especially 1950+) then MS63's come up reasonably often and fairly cheaply.  I understand your desire to put your set together quickly but this is almost always a more costly and less satisfying way of doing so.  If you're patient I suspect you could find a coin one point higher in grade for very little more than you paid for the 63.

[ausjack]

I didn't mean to embarrass anyone and sorry if I did but just trying to point out that if you just have a quick 5 min look it can save you but like Mark said you must be prepared to be patient as well. When I complete my proof sets they will have cost me under 1K each with a bit of luck (except for copper, poop) and hopefully be worth double because I've taken my time but not having the money to buy straight away helps and also friendly dealers that let me pay off and if it wasn't for that I wouldn't be able to do it.

[purplepennyhunter]

Remember too it's about the coin. You might a particular coin because it has eye appeal or a die crack or some die clash or toning or colour or is pretty in some other way. Another may have a carbon spot or a bagmark here or there or a water stain. Not all MS63's are the same, not all MS64's are the same. I have chosen MS64's over MS65's before, depending on what the coin looks like. A good pic will help you decide if THAT coin should join your collection.

[ausproofs]

I agree AJ, at times people get too hang up on the "estimates" and assume that how much they should pay.

[ausjack]

Yes very true PP as I have bought lesser grade as it looked better, I think you get that more with the likes of pre dec proof as I prefer either all pretty or all toned but doing this is harder said than done and a fair bit of homework..so yes buy because you like it Oh and yes that's why I want more slabs as I have about 6 that are au58 and there's a bit of a difference with toning and different marks and some make me wonder how in the hell they even made au and the same with ms that shouldn't get au and vice versa as some au look like they must have only just missed ms so I suppose it depends on how busy they are and what sort of mood people are in so there's a lot that has an effect but we're branching off into another area sorry :blush2:

Yes too right aus, I can say I think the estimate of my rotated 20 is worth $500 to $1000 but this doesn't mean in reality that I will get that money but also means that it might go higher, just depends on the day and if your lucky enough to have at least 2 people that really want it bad well then it's :yahoo:

[ausproofs]

Yes too right aus, I can say I think the estimate of my rotated 20 is worth $500 to $1000 but this doesn't mean in reality that I will get that money but also means that it might go higher, just depends on the day and if your lucky enough to have at least 2 people that really want it bad well then it's :yahoo:

Yep, Thats true.. Auctions attract higher prices because lot of emotions goes in to bidding... Some coins are hard to come by and you need to pay top $$$ to get them... Where as others, you have to wait for the right time..:idea:

[proof27]

My win, 4 x 1946 Florins from mint roll.

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[ausproofs]

My win, 4 x 1946 Florins from mint roll.

 

looking good.. Are you planing on PCGS/NGC grading these ?

[proof27]

Going by others thoughts on grading, I think PCGS. And plus I'm going to beat Timbertop and ggfenton one day. Timbertop has MS66 Canberra Florin, Best I seen for sale is MS65, would nearly do anything for MS66.

[ausproofs]

Going by others thoughts on grading, I think PCGS. And plus I'm going to beat Timbertop and ggfenton one day. Timbertop has MS66 Canberra Florin, Best I seen for sale is MS65, would nearly do anything for MS66.

Good luck with that mate, Timbertop has nearly all top of the pop coins. Deep pockets and dedication is the only way to get there :yahoo:

Good luck with your mission !:wavemulticolor:

[kchan1111]

I didn't mean to embarrass anyone and sorry if I did but just trying to point out that if you just have a quick 5 min look it can save you but like Mark said you must be prepared to be patient as well. When I complete my proof sets they will have cost me under 1K each with a bit of luck (except for copper, poop) and hopefully be worth double because I've taken my time but not having the money to buy straight away helps and also friendly dealers that let me pay off and if it wasn't for that I wouldn't be able to do it.

Not all all aj. I don't feel embarrassed one bit. Feel free to point out anything that I could do better (or more cheaply).

Did you really complete proof florin set under 1k??? That's bloody impressive. :good: I originally started out thinking I only want proof but realised quite quickly that would have cost me >10k! So I am trying to get as high grade MS as possible within my budget.

I have been very cautious about buying. Trying to limit myself to under 100 max to start Most like $50-70 or so. So even if I could have gotten something cheaper it won't be hundreds but in this case $10-25 overpaying. Having said that I am not depressed about the 51 fed. Quite looking forward to getting it actually.