1952 Tilted 2 penny - how scarce in UNC ?

Started by echidna, January 18, 2014, 12:38:12 PM

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robbiegal

no worries GS
it took me a fair time to get my head around the '52's & those jolly Indian dies
fortunately for me the hubby collected them and took a real interest (a few years back , he has other priorities now)
he and Fred lever communicated a bit on those and the dot movements in other years, so I was lucky to be around such discourse

there are some really keen '52 collectors out there - hence I  often purchased auction penny lots that have been full of the 52's with not a single error or variety - to my disappointment!

lacey

I see it.  I couldn't at first but then looking at the point at the left corner,it is easy to pick it.  Other than that, i found it very hard to spot.

I think I should go through ll my '52 1pennies, again.  So much fun.

robbiegal

you'll have fun lacey
you need a loupe - it helps
and then try to sort them into the different looking 2's at first - you will be surprised how many there are
then you might be able to pick out the leans left & then right, the serif pointed tail, the wedge and the square

rennicks (I think) has picture of the varieties but one is often coded incorrectly

I have rows and rows of these types (ex the square that is scarcer) but the high grade in these varieties is the challenge

emu666

http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php?option=1952A_penny

On the old ozrountable forum I wrote a detailed explanation of how these arose.

purplepennyhunter

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='39977' dateline='1390111895'http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php?option=1952A_penny

On the old ozrountable forum I wrote a detailed explanation of how these arose.

Can you link to that Peter?
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robbiegal

Quote from: 'emu666' pid='39977' dateline='1390111895'http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php?option=1952A_penny

On the old ozrountable forum I wrote a detailed explanation of how these arose.

ta for that

r9453

Quote from: 'echidna' pid='39942' dateline='1390055891'I think the first step would be a proper variety catalogue.
There has been lots of good research but its fragmented and needs to be brought together professionally.

I agree but no doubt easy to say, hard to do. A lot of good work can be found here in this forum. I often stumble on it while searching like I did just now.
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autocoupler

I believe there are three pointed serif dies as seen below. The second last pic is IMHO the parent of the square serif.

2 tilts right. Note the wavy top on the foot. Overall a finer font. Smaller dot after A in AUSTRALIA.



Aligned 2. Note the wave is less pronounced. Overall a slightly heavier font. Larger oval dot after A in AUSTRALIA.
 


Aligned 2. Note the crook of the 2 turns back on itself more than the previous two examples. Large round dot after A in AUSTRALIA. I believe this is the parent of the square serif below.


Square serif. Large round dot after A in AUSTRALIA. IMO a descendant of coin above.  
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