PCGS submissions, Grading Opinions

trout · March 02, 2015, 07:51:26 AM

very hard to tell from scans Mate.
If you think it is MS64 or better, then it is most certainaly a candidate Take a photo when the sun comes out :ok:

ausjack · March 02, 2015, 08:10:20 AM

Not that these are any better (if anything worse LOL) and wish I didn't shake so much but here ya go mate

stevo1962 · March 02, 2015, 08:12:24 AM

Be nice if it gets MS65RB

ausjack · March 02, 2015, 08:14:48 AM

Thanks Stevo but don' think it would go that high but then I'm still learning and anything is possible :good:

I liked the colours and actually liking the wood grain look more and more, didn't like them much at first but like a lot of things they tend to grow on you

trout · March 02, 2015, 09:14:32 AM

Here is a MS64 on Numisbid for comparison AJ :ok:

http://www.numisbid.com.au/Browse/1958-Y_Penny_PCGS_MS64RB/15636

robbiegal · March 02, 2015, 11:22:41 AM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='67884' dateline='1425243209'Thoughts on these scans please as I can't take decent pic's to show the pretty coulours, picked it up at the markets yesterday for about $5.

beautiful

honestly I am over all this MS talk
looks near unc, if not unc to me
WTF can't we continue to speak some Australian here?

trout · March 02, 2015, 11:51:50 AM

Look at the title of this thread RG

That's why we are talking "Sheldon" grades :ok:

ausjack · March 02, 2015, 12:59:06 PM

Sorry I was really after peoples thought on the coin and not so much grading so maybe I'll start a new thread next time just for opinions on coins as I don't wanna start any fights and especially between my mates

Thanks Jim I'll keep an eye on that link but grading is a bit pricey for me ATM but good to know and what people think :hi:

So all in all I think I did ok.

trout · March 02, 2015, 01:34:37 PM

Some Shillings for your grading pleasure

ANDA or Sheldon grades , It really doesn't matter

1942s

1943s

1944s

robbiegal · March 02, 2015, 05:26:58 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='67904' dateline='1425259310'Look at the title of this thread RG
That's why we are talking "Sheldon" grades :ok:

point taken but it is now pervasive across most threads in this forum

trout · March 02, 2015, 06:00:54 PM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='67933' dateline='1425279418'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='67904' dateline='1425259310'Look at the title of this thread RG
That's why we are talking "Sheldon" grades :ok:

point taken but it is now pervasive across most threads in this forum

:agreed:
But is it such a bad thing?
With the ANDA grades in Uncirculated there is only 4 grades
Uncirculated
Choice Uncirculated
Gem Uncirculated
FDC
With the Sheldon Grading system there are 10 different grades and that isn't counting the "+" grades.
Far more accurate and I would love to have a dollar for every time a coin is described as FDC that is actually a MS68 or 69 coin .

With the popularity of NGC and PCGS graded coins increasing within the Australian Market it make sense to describe coins using the Sheldon scale so that other collectors can make informed decisions as to what these numbers equate to as to the grade of a slabbed coin.
A couple of years ago I would have been "All OVER" this discussion and jumping up and down all over the place.
Numismatics is a "Fluid" thing and ideas and concepts change (Just like anything else) and most of us are scared of change and unwilling to learn a new concept.
I was TOTALLY anti Slobbing and hated the very idea of someone grading and Australian coin using an American system and made myself quit clear on that subject.

Then I settled down and had a good think about things :ok:
Slabbed coins take away the ability of shonky dealers selling cleaned, overgraded and sometimes fake coins and that is a GOOD thing.
If I buy a PCGS/NGC coin I am getting a guarantee (In Writing) that the coin is exactly what I paid for , another Good thing.
Once I got my head around how the Sheldon grades equate to an ANDA graded coin everything "Jelled" and I now have NO problem with either grading codes, The only problem is ALL PCGS and NGC coins are graded "Sheldon" So it is Paramount that Australian collectors can understand the way these grades match up.

I am like many Australians that think and speak in a different language, Except that I only speak English But grade Sheldon and ANDA :ok:

markn · March 02, 2015, 06:27:53 PM

AJ and RG's pennies look lovely but I have a hard time grading from scanned images. They both look UNC and I bet the colour just POPs.

Trout your shillings look (in order), AU53, AU58 (with a poorly neutralized dip), and the last one looks cleaned. I see hairlines on the obverse.

trout · March 02, 2015, 07:08:03 PM

Quote from: 'markn' pid='67938' dateline='1425283073'AJ and RG's pennies look lovely but I have a hard time grading from scanned images. They both look UNC and I bet the colour just POPs.

Trout your shillings look (in order), AU53, AU58 (with a poorly neutralized dip), and the last one looks cleaned. I see hairlines on the obverse.

Spot on Mate :yahoo:
I bought these a few years ago as "Uncirculated" and paid the going rate at the time :angel:
These and many others are the reason I much prefer to buy PCGS/NGC coins these days :p

robbiegal · March 02, 2015, 07:33:43 PM

well I will convert my guess at grading AJ's and I will say lightly touched off unc

and translate that to maybe a MS63 RB
but she might just nudge a MS64 RB

regardless AJ - it was a total bargain at $5 well done possum

ausjack · March 02, 2015, 07:44:28 PM

Thanks team and yes RG I can't knock back a nice coin for a fiver :winkextra:
Spot on Mark I find it so hard to capture what I see and my pic's don't do my coins any justice, wish I could take nice pic's like your but have noticed you've had trouble with the likes of this http://www.thepurplepenny.com/1287,great-britain-1806-half-penny-1-2d-km-662-pcgs-pr64bn-proof.html
The colours are just so hard as they look different with just moving the camera half a millimetre. I love the colours on the above coin and think you did an excellent job capturing them :good: