PCGS submissions, Grading Opinions

[stevo1962]

To my eyes it's as good or better than the last 1922 penny (below) that I sent to PCGS which achieved MS63BN but if it gets MS62 it will
still be a big win

[serial]

I get a bit perplexed grading these, the fields look good but you have that weird bumpiness to them that comes from the dies of that period. then you have rich/clear details on the head but the thing above the one looks worn out (I know weak strike) you also look at the crown and the lack of details on the vertical pearls and compare them to the details on his neck and shoulder and the only way to really get an idea of the grade is to have it in hand so you can look it over with an eyepiece and see the lustre.(even with your professional pictures)  
it is coins like this that make companies like Pcgs necessary

[echidna]

I get a bit perplexed grading these, the fields look good but you have that weird bumpiness to them that comes from the dies of that period. then you have rich/clear details on the head but the thing above the one looks worn out (I know weak strike) you also look at the crown and the lack of details on the vertical pearls and compare them to the details on his neck and shoulder and the only way to really get an idea of the grade is to have it in hand so you can look it over with an eyepiece and see the lustre.(even with your professional pictures)  
it is coins like this that make companies like Pcgs necessary

Look at the date first in order to get an idea of the strike charactistics.
Then look at the actual coin.
22 pennies are often terrible strikes.

[stevo1962]

I get a bit perplexed grading these, the fields look good but you have that weird bumpiness to them that comes from the dies of that period. then you have rich/clear details on the head but the thing above the one looks worn out (I know weak strike) you also look at the crown and the lack of details on the vertical pearls and compare them to the details on his neck and shoulder and the only way to really get an idea of the grade is to have it in hand so you can look it over with an eyepiece and see the lustre.(even with your professional pictures)  
it is coins like this that make companies like Pcgs necessary

Something I look for with these coins is the little lumps and dots on the top of the raised detail and if those are visible it is a good indication that It might be UNC as those little dots and spots usually disappear quickly in circulation

[dcoin]

That 1922 penny should go AU53 or 55.

I cannot see it going that low, the fields are mark free, possibly a hint of wear to the moustache (AU58?) but a decent crop of hair and the bands of the crown containing the 8 pearls don't show wear. The reverse looks like the die was worn out, I have pennies with similar pits under the letters of ENNY so that is some weird thing like ghosting. Also the letters of COM and the inner ring are not very well struck. MS62BN?

A lot of my grading comes down to the quality of strike. PCGS are not as harsh on strike fullness though.

[nealeffendi]

Hi dcoin, strike fullness doesn't have any bearing on if a coin grades MS or AU. It will stop it getting the higher grades of MS, Stevo might be right about MS63 if the other '22 also made 63 (although to my eyes the coin that did make 63 is a nicer coin).
Stevo, you said it would be a big win at MS62, would it be impolite to ask what you got it for?

[stevo1962]

Hi dcoin, strike fullness doesn't have any bearing on if a coin grades MS or AU. It will stop it getting the higher grades of MS, Stevo might be right about MS63 if the other '22 also made 63 (although to my eyes the coin that did make 63 is a nicer coin).
Stevo, you said it would be a big win at MS62, would it be impolite to ask what you got it for?

Cost me $25 and because the seller was American he wasn't familiar with weakly struck Australian high grade coins.Good for us but only if
you can grade them fairly accurately yourself and pick off the bargains and undergraded coins

[ausproofs]

Hi All,

What do you folks think a coin like this would grade ?

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[dcoin]

Hi All,

What do you folks think a coin like this would grade ?

That coin from the universal coin co auction would grade 64rb

[ausproofs]

Thanks dcoin ! I was thinking what that would grade at as it was called "Super Gem" ...

[dcoin]

They had a 1940 which graded 65 sell for $7500, if they thought it would grade the same they would surely have sent it to pcgs as well.

The carbon streaking will stop a 65 grade, this is an example with near perfect surfaces and it still didn't make 65 (most likely due to carbon spots).

http://www.numisbid.com.au/Browse/1951-Y_Half_Penny_PCGS_MS64RB/9820

[robbiegal]

my coin dealer refuses to put the GEM designation on a coin with carbon streaks
that being said , it still looks to be a beautiful coin to me

[ausproofs]

I agree, Thats a good way of looking at it.

[stevo1962]

Recent purchase now on it's way to PCGS but not easy to grade given it's a threepence which are quite often subject to being weakly struck.
Any opinions on grade?



Have also sent this one across to be slabbed but the question is will it
make MS63 or MS64?

[serial]

initially I would have said gVf but then I looked at the pcgs pop and saw an au55 I would now say xf45-au50. I was never any good with threepences