2012 $2 Aboriginal Elder Returns

[trout]

because many have ended up in the melt bucket.

NOOOOOOOOO :cray:
Lucky I am saving a few for prosperity :good:
They will have to get them out of my dead or dying fingers tho :ok:

[markn]

because many have ended up in the melt bucket.

NOOOOOOOOO :cray:
Lucky I am saving a few for prosperity :good:
They will have to get them out of my dead or dying fingers tho :ok:

I admire your passion for the parliament florin and at least with the silver they are worth something regardless of grade.  

Hoard up 2012 $2 coins and take them to a dealer in 10 years and I bet he/she will offer you.....$2 a coin.  There's no sense in it.

[enworb]

I think we should all just leave Sulla alone. He will spend his money on dirt common circulation issues which will in turn leave more collectable coins in the market for all of us.

[trout]

I think we should all just leave Sulla alone. He will spend his money on dirt common circulation issues which will in turn leave more collectable coins in the market for all of us.

On the contrary , I believe we should all help him to appreciate his coins more and that way get WAY more out of them than trying to make a living out of them :ok:
He IS passionate about his coins, So we should nurture his interest and give him some pointers  on how and what to collect.
A lot better than the poor sod raiding the banks and tying his money up on "Trendy" coins.
I recon give him a fair go and we may be able to turn him into a real collector one day :ok:

[Fulvio]

I guess you could argue that most errors are not scarce.  But what you call flaws are.

Most errors, yes, because things like double bars, stole cuds, fat 5's etc were a sizable percentage of the total mintage.

But some errors are extremely rare. I've got stuff that I've only ever seen one of, and yet I found two wavy 2's, which we all consider rare.

If there was any logic to this, those rare errors should be worth a fortune. but they're not. Clearly we have a ton of work to do to raise awareness.

And yes, flaws are unique, so they're beyond rare. Even the planchet flaws, because although there are lots of splits and tears and the like, no two are the same.

But anyway, regardless of our viewpoints on this, we do agree that even a couple million does not constitute a true rarity, let alone fifty million. Which of course doesn't stop many of us hanging onto most things under ten million, does it?

The last 2 years with the poppy and the coronation have been a "Breath of fresh air" for these coins

I couldn't agree more. Prior to this I never even bothered to look at a $2 coin, unless it looked UNC. This coronation chase distracted me for a few weeks, and in examining 35,000-ish of them I found quite a few errors I wasn't expecting. This would never have happened without the coronation design, and its given me a little knowledge and respect I never had for them previously.

Plus the sheer volume I was retaining forced me to develop a new storage system, since my old ways simply broke down under the strain.

All in all, I'm happy to call this issue a success, no matter what happens to the price in future. Standard design.. well, not so much. I'll happily hold them until mintages are in, but I don't expect anything miraculous. Far from it.

[SULLA]

I think we should all just leave Sulla alone. He will spend his money on dirt common circulation issues which will in turn leave more collectable coins in the market for all of us.

Yesterday's dirt common circulation issues are the coins highly sought after today!

Today's dirt common circulation issues will be the coins highly sought after tomorrow!

Trout wrote:
On the contrary , I believe we should all help him to appreciate his coins more and that way get WAY more out of them than trying to make a living out of them :ok:
He IS passionate about his coins, So we should nurture his interest and give him some pointers  on how and what to collect.
A lot better than the poor sod raiding the banks and tying his money up on "Trendy" coins.
I recon give him a fair go and we may be able to turn him into a real collector one day :ok:

Thanks Trout. As I wrote earlier my interest is mainly in one dollar rolls. (I currently have a good number of them!) The two dollar spree is just a temporary diversion.  Once I satisfy that itch, I will go back to my other main interest - collecting silver lumps.

[runway]

Rolls are nice but frustrating how certain people are able to get hold of these for purpose of selling at a premium.
What does it take to get Chubb coin rolls ?
Certain that Q is on every members thoughts

[Coins from Vending]

find a bank that gets mint issued coin and you can make a very handsome living at selling coin, I see many security bags of 2013 coin selling for 3-4-5x their face value on Ebay.

[enworb]

You just get them from the bank. Its luck of the draw although some banks seem to get more new coins than others.

[runway]

What banks use Chubb?

[SULLA]

Enworb is spot on!

Why do some banks get new coins; and the same bank a suburb away does not?

One branch gets Toll rolls. Next branch gets Toll bags!
One branch gets new coinsl Nextr branch does not!

Chubb rolls are pretty much restricted to ANZ from what I have seen!

RUNWAY the answers to your questions have been revealed many times!
Read recent threads re coloured  and std $2 coins!

Hard work makes you lucky!

[enworb]

ANZ are the most likely to have chubb rolls.

'Hard work makes you lucky!"

If you have to work to get something then it means that it is not a result of luck but rather effort.

[Fulvio]

If you have to work to get something then it means that it is not a result of luck but rather effort.

You got that right!

Armaguard have pretty much taken over coin deliveries this year. Apart from ANZ, (who I don't use), everyone else seems to be Armaguard. One exception is a branch who won't tell me who their supplier is, but I suspect it might be Toll.. just have to do some legwork to make sure.

Everything goes out in bags, of which there are three types.. clear, solid and striped. New coins are always in striped bags. However, Armaguard DO supply rolls to branches which have roll dispensing machines. Legend has it these rolls are also sometimes UNC, but I can't confirm this as yet, though I am trying...

As to why some branches get new and some don't, that's down to luck it seems. As far as I can tell, trucks go out with a mix of new and old coin sacks. Which sacks the guys reach for at any given stop seems to be random. And this is where the effort comes in.... If you want new coin, you have to phone AND visit a heap of branches, get to know them, and then be lucky.

Sometimes things just go right for you.. I scored a heap of Suffragettes and Volunteers rolls in Canberra once, because I tagged along with a friend who stopped in on our way elsewhere. I was asking about Coronations the other day, and noticed striped blue bags on a trolly... walked out with $50 of 2012 5¢. And of course my Coronations I finally found after a few near misses. Oh, and that sack of poppies of course.. I didn't even notice at the time!

So yeah, put in some effort and it should eventually reward you with a bit of luck. :angel:

[runway]

ANZ you reckon is it as simple as going to ANZ asking for Chubb mint rolls of coins how does Mr General public go about this when they don't bank there?

[Fulvio]

ANZ you reckon is it as simple as going to ANZ asking for Chubb mint rolls of coins how does Mr General public go about this when they don't bank there?

You open an account and stick a dollar in it.

And best of luck getting anything new from Chubb. Armaguard have an exclusive contract with the mint, and nobody else has any, except maybe at super-busy times when they beg Armaguard for coin. I've seen that happen about once every five years.