Varieties, Errors and Flaws

Started by Fulvio, August 06, 2013, 07:15:38 PM

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ausjack

talk about black and white..it's a shame most things are different shades of grey. Billy full of worms here. I'll be in the car :) I think it's like hinnies and mules, if I have a horse and a donkey and they mate you end up with either a mule or a hinny depending on what the male is and they all come under F1-hybrid that covers everything, plants cattle etc. bit like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya8-ZKcOhiY :laugh2:

so if I have multiple error on one coin (it's possible) where does it go..what error takes priority??

I like your idea RG :good:
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='24171' dateline='1375793268'so if I have multiple error on one coin (it's possible) where does it go..what error takes priority??

Excellent question.

I would say Variety first, then errors in order of magnitude, and finally flaws.

So a pointy A 2004 with a cud and a peel would still be a Pointy A first and foremost.



Oh, and I still don't get why we ever started giving bag marks a pass. PMD, IMO, and always will be, even if we ignore them.
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Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='24156' dateline='1375787229'I use misstrike for off centres and I am not entirely sure when an off- centre becomes a broad-strike but I think that I now have one of those
The definition that I adhere to is-
A broadstrike is not missing any design elements or legends. Once you lose some of that you're talking off-centre and can measure in %. These are all errors or mis-strikes.
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Quote from: 'purplepennyhunter' pid='24184' dateline='1375832124'
Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='24156' dateline='1375787229'I use misstrike for off centres and I am not entirely sure when an off- centre becomes a broad-strike but I think that I now have one of those
The definition that I adhere to is-
A broadstrike is not missing any design elements or legends. Once you lose some of that you're talking off-centre and can measure in %. These are all errors or mis-strikes.

I like your definition of the broadstrike.
When compiling the glossary there was some compromise on a few terms, hence the 10% difference between the broadstrike and the off-centre.
The list of terms is more a guide and not to be be taken too rigidly - there will always be grey areas.

The debate about what is an "error" and what is a "variety" naturally came up. The suggestion of a 3rd category "faults/flaws" to the die, was voted down as this would create more confusion. Technically the clipped planchet would not fit into any of the above as they are (now) made outside the mint.

There is one term that I omitted to delete, after compiling the list we found the "nip" under clipped planchets, would virtually be impossible to occur.
Quiz: Which error tells us that the nip virtually can not happen?