2 coronation paint error

trout · July 26, 2013, 09:45:51 PM

Quotetell you what I will do, I'll end the auction.

Thank you, that is all I wanted :good:

QuoteI am sure if it has been tampered with looking at it under high magnification will show evidence of tampering.

No it wont the acetone weakens the colour chemically without having any other effect on the coin.
If it is taken out of the solution the paint will dry and adhere again , but in a lighter shade.
I did this test specifically to ascertain if I could produce a coin like yours, It works out I can :ok:
I just knew that there would be a seller on eBay listing an error due to the colour or even NO colour But I had NO idea that it would come from one of our members :dash1:

Coins from Vending · July 26, 2013, 09:48:07 PM

I'll send you the coin, check it out for me and the forum, I am sure others will be interested in your assessment of the coin.

So who can I send this coin to to determine its authenticity??

robbiegal · July 26, 2013, 10:10:17 PM

The Royal Australian Mint

trout · July 26, 2013, 10:12:23 PM

Quote from: 'error hunter' pid='22980' dateline='1374841087'I'll send you the coin, check it out for me and the forum, I am sure others will be interested in your assessment of the coin.

I have absolutely no interest in "Assessing " your coin for you, If I was that way inclined I could make as many of these "error" coins as I wanted myself.
you have been on this site now for nearly 2 months and should realise by now that some of the very best numismatics in Australia are here looking at what you are posting ( I am but krill in the sea of numismatists on this site) and even I can see that you are not quite "Kosher".
This site is all about Australian collectors sharing information and coins and not about ripping people off on eBay.

robbiegal · July 26, 2013, 10:31:41 PM

Quote from: 'error hunter' pid='22953' dateline='1374837227'Has anyone got ball park figure this paint error coin might be worth?? I've put it on Ebay starting at $75 buy now for $250 bit optimistic but hey, Ebay is full of mugs??

to my disappointment you obviously think that this forum is full of mugs as well

fortunately there are more serious collectors here than greedy sellers who don't give a toss about the hobby or the community spirit and friendships that the hobby can bring into your life

you don't have a flying clue about the coin

your error may or may not be genuine
but your attitude expressed about buyers is far from genuine

sure there are mugs out there
and there is an even worse type - the ones who enjoy taking their money with contempt

revolting

an I offer no apology for my comments
appalling
i'll have nothing further to do with you here

Fulvio · July 26, 2013, 10:33:21 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='22982' dateline='1374842543'...you are not quite "Kosher".

Errrrrrr.... :stop:

Sorry Trout buddy, but you're getting a tad out of line I think.

OK, so we know the error can be faked. But right from the start it was stated it came out of an Armaguard bag like this. Now, unless you're actually calling people liars, you have to accept basic things like that at face value.

Big difference between saying you CAN replicate it, and claiming its therefore a fake. Its like the green serial numbers on the old fivers. We all KNOW you can give them a bath and make them green, but that does not mean some of them aren't genuine. Because we know for a fact they are.

My objection to this listing was precisely because of the uncertainty. I thought it was a bad idea, and I still do. That does NOT mean I think there's anything shonky going on.

Go have another read of the whole thread and see if you reckon an apology is due.

trout · July 26, 2013, 10:51:50 PM

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='22984' dateline='1374843801'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='22982' dateline='1374842543'...you are not quite "Kosher".

Errrrrrr.... :stop:

Sorry Trout buddy, but you're getting a tad out of line I think.

OK, so we know the error can be faked. But right from the start it was stated it came out of an Armaguard bag like this. Now, unless you're actually calling people liars, you have to accept basic things like that at face value.

Big difference between saying you CAN replicate it, and claiming its therefore a fake. Its like the green serial numbers on the old fivers. We all KNOW you can give them a bath and make them green, but that does not mean some of them aren't genuine. Because we know for a fact they are.

My objection to this listing was precisely because of the uncertainty. I thought it was a bad idea, and I still do. That does NOT mean I think there's anything shonky going on.

Go have another read of the whole thread and see if you reckon an apology is due.

Mate I have done as advised and re read the entire thread :ok:
I agree that an apology is due :ok:
But NOT by ME :angel:
Think about this for a second, Shonky eBay sellers and shonky dealers are THE reason why slabbed coins are becoming the ONLY way of getting a genuine coin lately so why not do all we can to get rid of the "Bad Elements" while we can so that we still have a chance at getting the coins we want/need without paying the extra $30-$50 tax/bounty on each coin :ok:

If you feel I need to apologise for standing up and making myself counted for "keeping the bastards honest" then I am very sorry my friend you will have to live with the disappointment.

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22983' dateline='1374843701'
Quote from: 'error hunter' pid='22953' dateline='1374837227'Has anyone got ball park figure this paint error coin might be worth?? I've put it on Ebay starting at $75 buy now for $250 bit optimistic but hey, Ebay is full of mugs??

to my disappointment you obviously think that this forum is full of mugs as well

fortunately there are more serious collectors here than greedy sellers who don't give a toss about the hobby or the community spirit and friendships that the hobby can bring into your life

you don't have a flying clue about the coin

your error may or may not be genuine
but your attitude expressed about buyers is far from genuine

sure there are mugs out there
and there is an even worse type - the ones who enjoy taking their money with contempt

revolting

an I offer no apology for my comments
appalling
i'll have nothing further to do with you here

I have NEVER EVER seen RG so angry before on ANY forum.
I wholeheartedly agree with her statements and endorse them :friends::ok:

The listing has been removed and I give kudos to errorhunter for that, Thank you :ok:

robbiegal · July 27, 2013, 07:42:50 AM

I think the ID mix up is that Sulla also came into the forum the other day/night offering the coronation coin in lots of 100 for $1,000 to members here
the $800 premium certainly did receive some comments from other posters!

stevo1962 · July 27, 2013, 07:45:14 AM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='22995' dateline='1374876770'I think the ID mix up is that Sulla also came into the forum the other day/night offering the coronation coin in lots of 100 for $1,000 to members here
the $800 premium certainly did receive some comments from other posters!

I would hope that none of the forum members are that gullible to fall for a sting like that

markn · July 27, 2013, 08:15:35 AM

OK I am going to lock this thread. I don't like the idea of this forum being used as an avenue for selling potentially fabricated errors. PPH and I will attempt to replicate removal of the paint from these coins to verify what trout has said. Any more discussion on this issue is locked until you hear back from us.