1930 fake penny for one million dollars

Goldseeker · July 11, 2013, 10:38:47 PM

Been there and done that. Still no reply from this seller.

dreamcatcher · July 12, 2013, 05:47:09 PM

I sent a message to....nothing.

interest · July 13, 2013, 10:21:49 AM

Auction ended no takers.
That's a surprise...NOT!

stevo1962 · July 14, 2013, 01:19:12 PM

Got an answer from the seller

Hi there, I apologise for belated reply, but I have been flooded by messages. This coin I have listed is my fathers coin. It currently has no COA, but my father is going to the Australian Mint to get one in a few weeks. He wanted me to list it to see the interest and opinions. It will be for sale when he gets the COA. This coin has been looked at by various coin auctioneers and jewellers who have confirmed it is not a forgery. The London Penny has one side London cast and one side Birmingham, which makes it impossible to forge. There are many who have said they believe it is fake because of the zero being a different shape. The coin dealers dad has taken it to to get it valued have said it is fake, but of course have offered to buy it from him for a pocket money price. I have been with my father at the jewellers and auctioneers, and seen it weighed and watched their reactions when they have viewed it. If you wish to keep informed please mail me your preferred contact. Regards Belinda

czark · July 14, 2013, 01:39:51 PM

Just received the same reply. It will be interesting to see if this shows up again with a certificate from the mint.

Mister T · July 14, 2013, 01:59:42 PM

Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='21423' dateline='1373773752'The London Penny has one side London cast and one side Birmingham, which makes it impossible to forge.

The Birmingham reverse means it is without doubt a fake.

trout · July 14, 2013, 02:19:43 PM

What is really scary is I think this seller truly believes that this piece of junk IS genuine and will go to any lengths to flog it off :dodgy:

Goldseeker · July 14, 2013, 03:02:30 PM

Quote from: 'stevo1962' pid='21423' dateline='1373773752'Got an answer from the seller

Hi there, I apologise for belated reply, but I have been flooded by messages. This coin I have listed is my fathers coin. It currently has no COA, but my father is going to the Australian Mint to get one in a few weeks. He wanted me to list it to see the interest and opinions. It will be for sale when he gets the COA. This coin has been looked at by various coin auctioneers and jewellers who have confirmed it is not a forgery. The London Penny has one side London cast and one side Birmingham, which makes it impossible to forge. There are many who have said they believe it is fake because of the zero being a different shape. The coin dealers dad has taken it to to get it valued have said it is fake, but of course have offered to buy it from him for a pocket money price. I have been with my father at the jewellers and auctioneers, and seen it weighed and watched their reactions when they have viewed it. If you wish to keep informed please mail me your preferred contact. Regards Belinda

What a load of trash. I was one of the last to get coins certified at the RAM in Canberra and they ceased doing it several years ago. The reason they ceased it was because of public Liability.

I had a 1930 Penny, a 1923 Halfpenny and a 1921/22 Threepence certified by the RAM at the same time by a Mr. John A____n and it cost $120.00 per coin. Several months later, I wanted my second 1930 Penny and second 1923 Halfpenny certified. Drove to Canberra after making contact with the RAM on the Thursday, delivered the coins on the Monday and two gents came down and met my wife and I and informed us QUIOTE "That as of last Friday, the CEO of RAM had issued an order that the RAM was no longer to certify coins due to public liability reasons". What a wasted trip from Melbourne to Canberra for nothing. I was also informed that Mr. John A____n had resigned from the mint.

So whatever this seller is saying, is a load of crap or whatever you want to call it. The coin will not/never be certified by the RAM.

Further, by signing off as "Belinda", is the seller trying to impersonate Belinda Downie?

trout · July 14, 2013, 03:13:55 PM

If this seller genuinely feels this coin is real then a simple submission to PCGS would be the only way to get it authenticated :ok:

You ARE a dark horse Goldie , two 1930 pennies :drooling:

Goldseeker · July 14, 2013, 03:22:02 PM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='21447' dateline='1373780635'If this seller genuinely feels this coin is real then a simple submission to PCGS would be the only way to get it authenticated :ok:

You ARE a dark horse Goldie , two 1930 pennies :drooling:

And I want another one of each for my own collection.

The other coins are one of each for my son and daughter.

trout · July 14, 2013, 03:26:18 PM

Quote from: 'Goldseeker' pid='21451' dateline='1373781122'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='21447' dateline='1373780635'If this seller genuinely feels this coin is real then a simple submission to PCGS would be the only way to get it authenticated :ok:

You ARE a dark horse Goldie , two 1930 pennies :drooling:

And I want another one of each for my own collection.

The other coins are one of each for my son and daughter.

The adoption papers are on their way "Dad" :laugh2:

stevo1962 · July 14, 2013, 03:54:04 PM

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The adoption papers are on their way "Dad" :laugh2:
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That's very funny Jim :laughingneqw:

Goldseeker · July 14, 2013, 03:55:22 PM

I HAVE JUST RECEIVED THE SAME RESPONSE FORM THE SELLER OF THE 1930 PENNY AS EVERYONE ELSE AND I HAVE RESPONDED WITH THE FOLLOWING:

QUOTE:

I wish you luck in trying to get the coin Certified by the RAM as they ceased doing Certifications several years ago due to "public liability" concerns. Regardless, your coin is definitely a fake. I can assure you that 1930 penny exists with the Birmingham Die. Your coin is a cheap import from CHINA and can be bought from most coin dealers for $20-$25.00 for space fillers only. As I said in my previous emails to you, a respected Melbourne coin dealer recently sold a PROOF 1930 penny for $1,000,000.00. Yours does not compare to this coin nor does it compare to either of my two 1930 pennies. The sale of this coin is a sham and should be removed forthwith from sale and a public apology put in its place. I know for sure that you have received many emails re this coin you are passing off and they are all of the sale content. Further, if the coin is for real, which it isn't, why not put some of these questions into your ad so that anyone can read the emails and your responses. You have now been placed on my BANNED LIST.

UNQUOTE

Now lets see if she comes back again.

Australian coin · July 14, 2013, 03:55:36 PM

QuoteThe adoption papers are on their way "Dad" :Laugh2:

haha friken brilliant!

JeffH · July 15, 2013, 07:07:20 AM

I received the exact same reply as Gold seeker yesterday.
Then, 3 minutes later, "Once My father has the COA, I assume the price will be more than reasonable
as it is not the normal 1930 penny but is the rare London die. Anyway, send
me contact details if you wish to keep informed. Kind regards Belinda".

That's it for me with this one -won't bother to send details.