scam coins on ebay

[fred lever]

Have not had much to do with coins lately  but while updating my self on the 1920 penny series and the No Dot varieties i popped over to eBay to see if any are on sale.
Last time I looked around 2015 there were a bunch of people with coins that clearly had dots on them.
Things have not changed much!
Coin after coin had a dot or the pix was so poor you could not tell.
Worst was a guy stating his no-dot was the scarce "London die". 
I think he means the obverse was an "English" die, but bad luck for him his very expensive coin has a common Indian die!
I did send him a heads up but don't expect an answer.
So, we still have scammers and people that are clueless as well as sellers that forget to put the lights on and focus the camera.

Then for some reason I checked on some "Mule" 2000 dollars and just laughed  at some of the offerings of bashed up normal Y2000 coins posed as "mules" for incredible prices.
You can even buy a "proof" mule!!!!!
That "Asian" mint is at it again.
Forget 1930 pennies, they are going for the mules!
One guy even has the letters "fake"  as part of his sellers name.............................
Strewth!

Now i know why I have lost interest in coins and prefer to work in science oriented areas  like vintage radio and electronics.
Any body that tries to put it on in these spheres gets shot down real fast.

Am i right in guessing the conmen and scammers are  still at it strong.

Cheers, Fred.

[seedyrom]

I'm a decimal kind of guy, so am not familiar with those coins. But on US eBay, they're some absolutely horrendous straight up scams. They buy genuine boxes and Certificates of Authenticity for gold bullion, then get Chinese fakes and put them in.
I report them ... but nothing happens.
We are talking about people selling a fake coin for $3,500+

[Tanecoins]

Avoid any coin for sale and its seller is located in China or has a Chinese selling name that is like Zhang, qien, lang, etc and you are not 100% certain they are not in China. Chinese fakes have really stopped new collectors and ruined faith in the hobby.

Sometimes they say Zhonggua (Chinese for China) or PRC which stands for Peoples Republic China, a way many products that want to disguise Chinese origins hide it. I remember a promotion at our supermarket for Smeg Ceramics, Bosch knifes and fancy glasses promted the German design and German quality, yet the boxes had in tiny lettering "Made in the PRC" so it was more misdescribed Chinese crap. Its unavoidable to block Chinese made stuff now (Mainly as I respect human rights, hate their lying government and militant anti west ways), but I try to buy as little as possible.

If you see things like "Rare American eagle, gold 1 ounce coin - just $35 each" and then "Luckysun products Yingjao PRC" you know its a fake and Chinese rubbish made out of Tungwah tungsten. I have even heard of one Chinese seller arrested for selling Perth Gold bars that were made out of gold plated plastic!!!

[Basilstate]

Yes,extreme buyer beware these days,as i posted in the other Thread Chinese 'Gold' Sovereigns are difficult to pick from photo's.
Also its not just Ebay, Facebook is also attracting scammers.

ACA did a story on the fake Perth Mint bars a few years ago,gold plated base metal in fake PM packaging.
ACA tracked down factory making them,owner did not have a problem and could not see what all the fuss was about,he even asked the reporter and his translator if they wanted to buy some at a 'special' price.
Story was on Utube last year but can't find it now.

[Tanecoins]

Yes, the Chinese are devoid of any kind of morals now. Communism got rid of the 5 good Confucian virtues. That horrible system of dictatorship and suffering has destroyed human emotion for greed.

In my opinion, the Chinese Communist party are the worst threat to our whole planet.

[fred lever]

Just browsed eBay again for coins.
Absolutely amazed at normal circulation decimal change being offered for thousands of dollars as rare (rear) bargains.
Usually a one off seller with no feedback.
That sort of s**t just kills the hobby.
Also laughed to see a good old "genuine" 1930 penny (from grandmas estate), ' reluctantly being sold due to medical bills'.
Just like the good old days!
Coin is obviously a date altered fake. Seller also has a letter from the mint by Joslin in the 1980s declaring some coin was genuine.
No way of linking the letter to the fake being offered.
The letter is the most interesting thing, forget the coin...........
I have no interest in communicating with eBay or the seller.

Feel sorry for the real sellers, completely drowned out by one go scammers.
Sigh.
Fred.

[pra666]

Just browsed eBay again for coins.
Absolutely amazed at normal circulation decimal change being offered for thousands of dollars as rare (rear) bargains.
Usually a one off seller with no feedback.
That sort of s**t just kills the hobby.
Also laughed to see a good old "genuine" 1930 penny (from grandmas estate), ' reluctantly being sold due to medical bills'.
Just like the good old days!
Coin is obviously a date altered fake. Seller also has a letter from the mint by Joslin in the 1980s declaring some coin was genuine.
No way of linking the letter to the fake being offered.
The letter is the most interesting thing, forget the coin...........
I have no interest in communicating with eBay or the seller.

Feel sorry for the real sellers, completely drowned out by one go scammers.
Sigh.
Fred.

[Tanecoins]

I never got an ebay account and won't on principle.

But according to an American channel called CoinhelpU on Utube - Ebay are introducing some stricter rules with people selling junk coins, must be 100 quality sales with no silly prices or scams and then they can sell anything they want or something like that.

I stay on NZ's trade me, which is mostly dealers and honest people, mixed with Mom and Pop who have found granma's old penny from 1902 and it must be worth 10 kabillion dollars. We have an active group here, who will shout down the scammers fast and the number of scam listings (Mostly fake Chinese copies) is quite low. We have problems with common change being worth big bucks like 1988/89 HH $2 coins, 1971 1p and 2- new pence and the 2004 10c/$1 mule etc.