not what you thought you had

[ausproofs]

Good point Neal. Recently I have picked up graded pre decimal coins much cheaper than raw coins. So if you have good research skills, there are plenty of high grade coins already graded up for grabs. Another thing to look for is NGC graded coins that are under grarded. You can pick them up and regrade them to get a better PCGS grade. But to do that you need to know how to grade coins.

[nealeffendi]

Good point Neal. Recently I have picked up graded pre decimal coins much cheaper than raw coins. So if you have good research skills, there are plenty of high grade coins already graded up for grabs. Another thing to look for is NGC graded coins that are under grarded. You can pick them up and regrade them to get a better PCGS grade. But to do that you need to know how to grade coins.

I do buy the occasional NGC slab, but even those I think will upgrade at PCGS I won't crack open. Nothing wrong with NGC slabs and nobody knows if in 20 years if PCGS or NGC will be on top (though NGC will need to have a decent set registry to compete). So why spend the money on cracking out unless you want them for your registry or to sell? And yes the already graded coins can be at a bargain price for grade, with the bonus of not forking out another wad of cash for grading or the expense of return post to California (my "free" submission will cost about $100 for postage). Often the price of the graded coin is less than the grading fee.
Don't just look at NGC, look at ICG and the other smaller or defunct graders with a decent reputation, I have 3 coins from 3 different grading firms (2 defunct local and one Canadian) ready for my next submission.

[ausproofs]

Agreed. I am a registry set participant, hence my NGC coins doing the second US trip ... but yes there is no other reason to get them regraded.
As they say buy the coin not the slab.

[frenc11]

oh no something else to worry about , it never ends

[frenc11]

oh no something else to worry about , it never ends[quote="stevo1962" pid='114681' dateline='1522312466']

It is a jungle out there.  I have bought  raw coins at the start from dealers (on ebay) however  quickly realised  it is not for me. If I decide now to look for raw coins, I only buy them from collectors.  Most raw coins are either not worth slabbing or are cleaned.

it might be safe to assume that most good predecimal coins have already been graded

There are still plenty of good KGV raw coins out there you just have to look and it would be
handy if you could grade them as well so you know if they are overpriced or a bargain
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oh no something else to worry about , it never ends

[frenc11]

[quote="runway" pid='114683' dateline='1522321788']
As a numismatic collecting community our concern is now concentrated with the Chinese Fake coins listed on eBay
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thats a worry

[frenc11]

judging by the volume of PCGS  AU graded coins on ebay these days seems like i am not the only person who has been hit with a loss in selling my overgraded raw coins ( newly slabbed )

[keldaw]

can any body tell me how to get rid of my smilies please as i can not see what i am typing until i send post . thank you  , i cant even see how to delete this post

[JeffH]

Not sure what your problem is but a few suggestions;
•If there is an issue with a browser it is worthwhile to clear your cache and cookies. Close the browser then and reboot the computer and start again
•Sounds a little like you have things being selected on the page.
      -Try hitting the "Esc" key. Does that do anything?
      -Is one of your "Shift" buttons stuck down?
      -Is a mouse button stuck?
•Might be worth trying a different browser in case the one you are using takes exception to the forum. Firefox or Chrome are good ones. I personally would not use any browser that comes with Windows.

Jeff