Old Map, 1841 'Neu Holland'. Info.?

[Basil]

"1841 World Map with Australia Mercators Projection Planiglobe Stieler Schul Map . Hand colored original copper engraved map. Sheet measures 11 3/4" x 9 1/2". 

I'm having problems getting Info. and Value of this old Map that was part of a bulk buy.Australia is 'Neu Holland'and Hawaii still the 'Sandwich Islands".
Anyone on here collect Maps or have any knowledge of same. Willing to sell if anyone wants it..... TIA.

[Unicorn]

Gee that's a beauty Basil ....... Love the AustrALIEN!!!

[drakesterling]

Looks like a German map of the world. Chines Reich!

[ausproofs]

Looks interesting, I dont collect maps but dont mind getting this ... What would you like for it ?

[Pedro]

Don't know whether you came across this Basil (only brief) - seems to be one of the earliest maps with America at its centre.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=sb5aDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT100&lpg=PT100&dq=planiglob%2Bzugleich+als+karte+v+australien&source=bl&ots=OZyGanBdoR&sig=tTTyFCGkk0MNBWyH5FkhC8Wuj7k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiLlL6R2vPcAhUDgrwKHQRNAQwQ6AEwBnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=planiglob%2Bzugleich%20als%20karte%20v%20australien&f=false

Someone selling one:

https://antiquemapsprints.com/products/world-on-mercator-projection-global-time-comparison-old-map-1834-stieler-scarce?variant=2969890783243


Pedro

[Basil]

Looks interesting, I dont collect maps but dont mind getting this ... What would you like for it ?

No idea,make an offer. :-/


Getting OT but i read a article where back in the late 1800's a German Scientist(?) based in Melb. had funding from the German State,one of the Emperor Wilhelms i think, to study and record Australian Weather.The British knew he was here and what he was doing but apparently he was also a conduit for people that were mapping Aust. for the Germans.
At the same time the Japs. were mapping Northern Aust.,its amazing how far in advance these Govt. work as it was nearly 50 years later before the Japs made their move.

Edit..Thanks Pedro,interesting ,that didn't come up on my Google.

[Sapyx]

The language is definitely German. At the top-right is "Steiler's Schul-Atlas No.11" - meaning "Steiler's School Atlas No.11". Presumably part of a set of maps made for German-speaking schoolchildren, for putting up on the classroom wall, though the emphasis on Australia makes me think it may have been intended for use in the schools of German-speaking colonists in Australia, rather than Europe or other German-speaking colonists elsewhere. "Zugleich als Karte von Australien" translates to "At the same time as the map of Australia", which was presumably map number 10 or 12.

It's purely a geographic map, rather than political. Note how the entirety of New Guinea is lumped in with Australia and New Zealand, the traditional Europe-Asia dividing line along the Ural Mountains, and Alaska being part of the Americas, despite being owned by Russia at the time.

[Basil]

Thanks for Info. Sapyx, School Atlas of some kind by the looks of thing,they were trying to boost their presence/power in the Pacific around this time using New Guinea as their Base so may be related to that.
I also read an article where US Sugar/Tobacco farmers in Hawaii were worried about a German or Russian Invasion around this time and were lobbying Washington for help.

[Bigfellani5]

How big is it? Most early maps are actually reproductions with a lot coming from atlases from the late 1800,s. value depends on the original map, when it was reproduced, and what book it was out of. Map collecting is a whole new world!

[Nevol]

This is from the original post:

Hand colored original copper engraved map. Sheet measures 11 3/4" x 9 1/2".