HM 90th Birthday

[trout]

I will be sending a 2007 Wedding set to NGC to be graded and I will add a couple of the HM Birthday sets to the submission, It will be interesting to see how NGC attributes these coins

[Triggersmob]

Good luck with the gradings.

[trout]

I have NO idea what to put on the submission form for these.
They are not Specimen or circulation strikes and they are not Proofs either, Maybe PL Proof Like might be close but they are a reverse proof ??
Maybe Reverse proof like But I don't think that NGC has that attribution.
Any suggestions ??

[LooseChange]

Why not just what the mint described them as, is that an option?

[trout]

Why not just what the mint described them as, is that an option?

HMMM
Frosted is a descriptive term But Uncirculated is a grade, So "Frosted Uncirculated" is pretty much Gibberish as far as a TPG is concerned.

[LooseChange]

I don't know the ins-and-outs of submitting to a TPG...  Do they give any weight to what the manufacture (mint) considers the coin to be?

Frosted Uncirculated

Using the same processes and technology behind uncirculated coins, these coins have the defining feature of a polished, more striking image against a frosted field (background). These coins often become highlights in an uncirculated coin collection, and are an effective way of expressing the passion that collectors have for particular themes or designs.

Source:https://www.ramint.gov.au/collector-coins



I'm just asking out of genuine curiosity.

[trout]

The methods used to make these particular coins are quite different to what is usually produced not only by RAM but the US and the Canadian Mint as well.
I am not sure about the Royal Mint But I haven't seen anything quite the same as these produced by ANY other Mint.

Lets look at these coins a bit closer :ok:

obverse.
The devices and design on the coin is heavily frosted but the fields are not mirrored as a normal proof coin would be.
This gives the coin a heavy cameo look But the coin hasn't got the sharpness of strike or finish of a Proof or even Proof Like coin.
So frosted uncirculated makes sense for the obverse But the TPG's haven't got a prefix to describe this, The closest would be is MS CAM or MS DCAM and I haven't seen this used yet.

   

Reverse
Here we have a coin with the fields and the devices (50) are lightly frosted and have a satiny appearance as opposed to the heavy frosting used on the obverse and the design is struck normally making the coin look like a reverse proof But the strike is Not of proof quality.
A TPG would most likely just call this MS.

   

The interesting thing with these coins is that the obverse and the reverse are two very different finishes and because dies for these were specially treated just for this particular run of standard circulating designs they could also be seen as a Specimen strike.

I am interested to see what NGC makes of these unusual coins

[LooseChange]

"The interesting thing with these coins is that the obverse and the reverse are two very different finishes"

I totally forgot about this... good point. I look forward to seeing how you go with these at the TPG.

[trout]

The different finish is the very reason I bothered to pre order these from RAM, Otherwise i wouldn't have bothered with them :ok:

[kchan1111]

I keep getting ads for this on Facebook

https://shop.auspost.com.au/product/queen-elizabeth-ii-90th-birthday-three-coin-prestige-pnc-0314517?ecid=LK20161116003

This PNC looks different again to the original PNC (purple in colour)??

[Pedro]

The Prestige PNC combines all three effigies that were previously issued in 3 separate PNCs LC.

Pedro

[trout]

The Prestige PNC combines all three effigies that were previously issued in 3 separate PNCs LC.

Pedro

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pretty much the same as the original issue of these coins But on a PNC instead of on Card.
So much for the RAM's play with words with the 9018 coins being for the sets only.
This entire mintage has a "nasty" smell to it :dash1:

[kchan1111]

The Prestige PNC combines all three effigies that were previously issued in 3 separate PNCs LC.

Pedro

Ah I see. Thanks.

[runway]

The PNCs were more expensive to buy as a set though