Kids of today.

[autocoupler]

People watching at the shops while waiting around for the better half is the source of amusement sometimes, other times it just makes me mad. I couldn't count the number of times I've seen the spoilt brat teenager ( sorry Ladies, usually a daughter ) sporting that expressionless "doh" face with Mum in tow. You just know that good old Mum will move a mountain that day in order to please the unpleasable. But this isn't just a recent thing.

[Coiny Chris]

Hello,

There is a lot of Spoilt Princess attitude about. Like the magnetic poles are shifting, so to are the Genders. Girls now have attitude, dress to show " Builders crack " and spend less time doing their hair / getting ready than the Boys. Not all as I have said though. I know this is going out on a branch a little, but ethnic groups that dont want to assimilate are a different issue. The first Gen of Kids dont think they are Aussie, and resent everything. The Parents know this is a sort of fresh start and do appreciate being here. The trouble is they always bring the issues they claim to be fleeing from with them. It is quite common to be talking to someone and they mention " their country " then when you ask they were born here. When you come to a Country, you have to fit in.

Kids show little respect for their Parents and elders. In the " Old " days it was common for 3 generations to be in a house. The Patriarch ruled the place. Now they can get out early and are given accom and money. They then learn how to milk the system and breed another generation of Oxygen thieves. They take over Public housing areas, and the Pensioners and other Tenants live in fear. Not just Public housing either. This isnt a new thing, but all the " Do gooders " telling people about all their rights have added to the problem. Much like not being able to keep a Kid in line with a smack. Many Parents would also benefit from this IMO.

We need to stop the slide, we are slowly becoming another state of the US. We are all paying for this, even if indirectly. Kids are the first step IMO. Teach them values and respect.

[Basil]

We need to stop the slide, we are slowly becoming another state of the US. We are all paying for this, even if indirectly. Kids are the first step IMO. Teach them values and respect.

I agree but the American influence is far preferable to becoming a Province of China,the Chinese are running our economy at the moment,they are destroying our manufacturing and looking to invest in Farming & Mining leases. Falun Gong defector in Aust. gave the Govt. a list of over 800 people "working" for the Chinese Govt. so looks like they will have a huge influence over us in the future.

[robbiegal]

Chris
you are describing a smaller percentages of our community and then lumping all young people in with them?
bit of tunnel vision there?

I don't entirely agree with the patriarch ruling the place, during the great depression it was very often the working class women who kept the house hold going while their unemployed husbands languished in their self pity at the pub
Many families are matriarchal
It depends on which book you are reading & if it includes a female perspective on society

my boys left home at 23 and 23 respectively - the 26 year old is now back home after paying part of a $750 a week rent in a shared house - none of them could afford the rent - all low income earners but a big house
we asked him to come home as I resent this heartless & capitalistic rental game

[autocoupler]

the Chinese are running our economy at the moment,they are destroying our manufacturing

The emerging nations are throwing up stiff competition no doubt, but we ourselves in some instances have to accept a certain amount of blame for our manufacturing sutuation. IMHO for a long time we have been going down the crazy utopian path of doing less for more, of course we can't compete doing that. Over the top legislation by governments don't help much either, you only have a look at the industrial safety legislation pushed through by the previous government to understand their ideals don't fit in with common sense management. Companies are now compelled to direct ridiculous amounts of resorces at the safety management issue, and it's all about jumping through hoops in order to cover backsides, nothing to do with safety. The biggest cause of injury in the work place is poor training, and stems from another utopian load of crap thinking that we can bring people off the street and train them up in a fraction of the time as was necessary in past decades. Who in the end pays for all this waste? The end user, we us and co. IMHO polititians seeking utopia don't appreciate or care about the consequences of their actions. They appear to me to deliberately sabotage certain sections of our economy in order to engineer a particular ideal, whether that be in favour of other sections of industry or foriegn expectations I don't know. And what happened to the old thinking, " a fair days work for a fair days pay ". This is way off topic, Im gone :dead_horse:

[robbiegal]

ha ha
it gets you in!!
I fell for it too - very emotive topics
so I'm gone as well!!! :heart:

[Coiny Chris]

Hello,

I was not trying to be " sexist ", but in the days gone by that was the traditional sort of family Dad was the authority figure, and Mum ran the house. I am thinking out loud about the decline in traditional family values. Things I would never have dared to do as a Kid, common now. Some of the programs on TV, show the sort of Idiot that are now " Breeding " and I wonder about the future when these People take rather than contribute to society. It wont be a nice place, and gated communities will become the norm.

[robbiegal]

Article link attached:

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2009/mar/17/ephebiphobia-young-people-mosquito
We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self-control." These words - expressing the all-too-familiar contemporary condemnation of young people - were actually inscribed on a 6,000-year-old Egyptian tomb.

Later, in the fourth century BC, Plato was heard to remark: "What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets, inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"

And then, a few hundred years later, in AD1274, Peter the Hermit joined the chorus. "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all restraint ... As for the girls, they are forward, immodest and unladylike in speech, behaviour and dress."

[JeffH]

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
(The more things change, the more they stay the same.)

[Coiny Chris]

Hello,

All points taken, but Drugs that fry their Brains are far more common. Gangs have always been around, but now they seem to not just feud with each other. The punishments handed down by the Courts are far less than they used to be. Less of a deterrent and Jail is not a place they would dread to go.  Crims are let off too easy, I remember a Cop telling me he would like to give the thieves the address of the judge's. Once they become a victim they may sentence harder. Many Girls now cut themselves, didnt hear about it in my day. Our society is changing, I know why many want to live on an Island or a remote area and avoid others altogether.

[Ozcoins]

Chris,
I think you might need to think about my post about police being exposed to and seeing/thinking the worst of society.
I think the words "didn't hear about it" are key.  Not hearing about it does not mean bad/self destructive behaviour was not around.