pulling the pin

ausjack · October 22, 2013, 08:39:10 AM

Gee, thank you very much Greg I really appreciate your kind words and for sharing mate as it's these small gestures that I find do make a difference and if we can make some part of our world just a little better it's a start to bigger things and would make me a very happy to see the world get it together as I know we can do better because all you have to do is have a look here at this small group and the love and friendship that is here, it really is amazing and it's great to have such great friends :friends:

And thank you Fulvio and RG for sharing as it takes guts to talk about and how it effects us and loved one's but if we don't I feel things are only going to get worse so I take my hat off to all, thank you :hi: :heart:

ausjack · October 27, 2013, 01:00:14 PM

watching the race, hope your team goes well Greg

Lucky he missed the crash at the start, cool little cars :good:

runway · November 02, 2013, 11:02:18 PM

AJ and Maccas I hear ya

ausjack · November 03, 2013, 07:36:23 AM

Thanks runway, I think talking about it is ok and if we don't make it ok and keep trying to sweep it under the rug more people will get hurt both the person suffering from depression as well as the people around them and it's our loved one's that cop the brunt of it the most so they need support as much as the sufferer does..well that's my experience anyway, oh and after many years and all sorts of their medication I find having nice people around me works far better and cheaper than meds as they don't seem to work on me and if anything makes me worse..so for all the other sufferers, chin up and one step at a time :friends: and to the supporters, I thank you for your help as I know how hard it can be to ask for help and then to recieve as well so I take my hat of to you :hi:

Keep the dream alive :angel:

robbiegal · November 03, 2013, 11:04:34 AM

:heart:

sometimes the 'FF and T' treatment can be the best

family
friends
talk about it

Ozcoins · November 03, 2013, 08:35:30 PM

Absolutely Robbiegal!
However different things are good and suitable for different people at different times.
I have seen people state "the drugs dont work and are bad" when maybe they should have said "the drugs I have been recommended don't work for ME".
I believe that some people would be on suitable drugs and stopping taking them would be a bad thing.
AJ I am very happy that things are going well for you and you have all your friends here behind you..

robbiegal · November 03, 2013, 09:01:00 PM

agree AC

the most proven 'evidence based' therapeutic is the combination of the (usually) SSRI's (Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) and the talking therapies such as cognitive behaviour therapy (CBT)

although the CBT on it's own is a proven therapeutic

many people do get unpleasant side effects from anti-depressants (fatigue, vagueness, nausea and even anxiety, and of course for both the blokes & the ladies some dulling of the pleasure principle ** wink** the bedroom)
but for some - a 3- 6 months program can helps to drag a person out of the blues and get them back on track

I have a friend who gets cyclical 'endogenous depression' - which means her body chemistry gets out of wack and she said it has been a lifetime battle but she has accepted now that when the depression cycle kicks in - she does need to take the anti- depressants to get through it

other depression is 'exogenous' and that is caused by things that happen and create a 'reactive depression' - grief and loss is a classic, losing a job, losing a part of your health , marriage bust up and so on. a person gets down and miserable and if they stay too down and too miserable for too long then a depression can set in. where I work we see a lot of reactive depressions from health problems that cause other problems in the persons' life etc

and yes, if a person is on SSRI's - never ever suddenly stop as the brain needs a gradual withdrawal to start manufacturing it's own supply of serotonin again.

there are academic arguments about the use of anti-depressants especially for under 20 years of age group, so getting a good therapist to review and evaluate the type of depression is the better first thing to do rather than give a young person pills

runway · November 03, 2013, 10:47:36 PM

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='33347' dateline='1383426383'Thanks runway, I think talking about it is ok and if we don't make it ok and keep trying to sweep it under the rug more people will get hurt both the person suffering from depression as well as the people around them and it's our loved one's that cop the brunt of it the most so they need support as much as the sufferer does..well that's my experience anyway, oh and after many years and all sorts of their medication I find having nice people around me works far better and cheaper than meds as they don't seem to work on me and if anything makes me worse..so for all the other sufferers, chin up and one step at a time :friends: and to the supporters, I thank you for your help as I know how hard it can be to ask for help and then to recieve as well so I take my hat of to you :hi:
Well said mate
Keep the dream alive :angel: