$1 Errors

Started by Nevol, February 26, 2013, 02:29:48 PM

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Nevol

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36578' dateline='1386479074'There are two distinct versions of this error... a thin crack and the cud shown above. I can't recall ever finding any other type of error on these coins either, which makes them rather special, especially compared to more recent years. ;)
Yep, I have multiples of both types. I have listed a Smithy coin having a 6mm Rim Cud, from 9 - 10k, but don't yet have an image,  I'll see if I can dig it out & take a piccie. I also have a couple Smithy laminations. :angel:
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36587' dateline='1386484044'I have listed a Smithy coin having a 6mm Rim Cud, from 9 - 10k, but don't yet have an image,  I'll see if I can dig it out & take a piccie. I also have a couple Smithy laminations. :angel:

While flaws really don't count, because after all they ARE unique, I've never really decided about rim cuds. On the one hand they are of course die breaks, which makes them as much errors as any other. But on the other hand, they're not predictable, in either what coins they appear on, where they appear, or how large they are.

I'm thinking we need a concerted effort to try and document the little blighters, to see if we can pin down some sort of progression, as with say rabbit ears or boxing gloves. Or failing that, ascertain if there are in fact many different breakages on different dies producing them.

Interested? :angel:
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Nevol

Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36590' dateline='1386485428'Interested? :angel:
Maybe, kinda depends on what's involved. :winkextra: I'm just about to embark on a chore to try to get all my Aussie error coins sorted into some organised method so that when I want a particular coin, I will know exactly where to look. :whistle2:

I waste far too much precious time trying to locate things. :dash1:
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trout

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36595' dateline='1386487063'
Quote from: 'Fulvio' pid='36590' dateline='1386485428'Interested? :angel:
Maybe, kinda depends on what's involved. :winkextra: I'm just about to embark on a chore to try to get all my Aussie error coins sorted into some organised method so that when I want a particular coin, I will know exactly where to look. :whistle2:

I waste far too much precious time trying to locate things. :dash1:

Thank God I don't actively collect errors, I have over 3,000 coins in the PPH albums in 2x2's and I can normally locate a coin in seconds.
Some of my other stuff like the US, Canadian and NZ coins are still in bags, ice cream containers and boxes and I will eventually get around to putting these in albums as well.
You blokes/gals with several thousand different errors and coins have a REAL task in front of you :angel:
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36595' dateline='1386487063'Maybe, kinda depends on what's involved. :winkextra: I'm just about to embark on a chore to try to get all my Aussie error coins sorted into some organised method so that when I want a particular coin, I will know exactly where to look. :whistle2:

I waste far too much precious time trying to locate things. :dash1:

I presume you read the posts I did some time ago describing the system I'm developing?

At its core are a couple of elements:

• A unique identifier for each coin, or roll in the event there are many identical ones (such as you find with bulk UNC coins).

• A webpage for each identifier, providing a place to park basic info, pictures, etc.

• A database to provide a reference base, print labels, etc.

At the moment, I'm using Filemaker Pro for the database, because it offers exceptional output capability with minimal effort. Things are still in flux, but its already doing a pretty good job of producing a variety of different format labels and lists. Plus, it could be accessed online if required.

For the web pages I'm using my own space, with goo.gl short URL's (to produce as small a QR code as possible). Eventually catalogue pages could be added as a front end, possibly via FMP, depending on being able to host it.

The identifiers are also in a state of flux, but this is what I wrote up about six months ago:

Coin Index Numbers
2013200e100000

Rolls:
2013200 Normal Coin, Standard Design
2013200c Commemorative Design
2013200v Variety

Errors

2013200e100000 Year
2013200e100000 Denomination (cents)
2013200e100000 Type: E-Error F-Flaw V-Variety
2013200e100000 Serial Number

Note: Individual coins have unique serial numbers. Roll numbers only indicate type of error, and always end in 000

2013200e100000 Major Error Type (Eg: 1-Die Variation/Damage)
2013200e100000 Secondary Error Type (Eg: 1-Crack,  2-Cud, etc)
2013200e100000 Tertiary Error Type (Used to disambiguate multiple similar errors)
2013200e100000 Sequence Number for individual coins


The database also contains a unique sequence number, which is used to add a barcode to roll labels in addition to the QR code. This allows tracking of particular identical rolls, even though they all carry the same identifier.

What I haven't given any thought to is implementing such a system for multiple users. While the numbers are large enough that no individual is ever likely to run out (yes, me included), there would be all sorts of issues with allocating and managing blocks of numbers. Its probably easier to separately add an alphabetic identifier, say the person's initials or something, either as part of the identifier or totally separate. But this part definitely needs work. ;)
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Nevol

Holy guacamole, I'd never remember even 5% of all that.  I hate to say it, but sorry Fulvio, I think you're on your own with that project, I simply would not be able to grasp it.  

In fact I just realised lately that I can only do one thing at a time. I used to be able to knit or crochet, read a book and watch TV all at once.  These days, the slightest distraction and I feel the need to scream. If my son speaks to me, I have to stop whatever I'm doing and concentrate very hard to be able understand what he's on about. Most times I don't remember what it was that I was doing, so then I go off on another tangent.

This getting old is no damn fun!
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Fulvio

Quote from: 'Nevol' pid='36598' dateline='1386490761'Holy guacamole, I'd never remember even 5% of all that.

Heh, point is not to have to remember it. And anyway, its like Mark's coin mapping project... its not building it that's the problem, its populating it with meaningful data. And that's the bit where help is needed. :)
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Unicorn

I couldn't see this one on Nevol's comprehensive list on page 1 of this thread. My guess is it's around 2:15 to 2:45


Nevol

That's a new 'Rim Cud' position on 2001 CoF $1 I've not seen before.  The majority of mine are on the left side with only a few on the lower right.

Nice find! :yahoo:
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ausjack

THUD, yep that was me hitting the floor, Nevol not see one, well I never :winkextra:
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Nevol

Quote from: 'ausjack' pid='39268' dateline='1389306478'THUD, yep that was me hitting the floor, Nevol not see one, well I never :winkextra:
:haha:  :haha: You crack me up AJ.
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ausjack

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Nevol

Discovered this one during my tidy up. Pretty sure this is PMD.

$1 2001 CoF Obv PMD


$1 2001 C1 Obv 2001 CoF Damaged area


$1 2001 C1 Obv 2001 CoF Edge & Rim Opposite side of Damaged area
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