Grading Guide for George VI and QEII

[petpat]

Hi All,
I need help in grading lower grade Australian PreDecimal Coins from 1938 on.  I was wondering if someone could assist in finding a coin grading guide for Australian KG IV and QEII Coins.
Many years ago I found a very helpful guide for KG V coins.
It shows images of Obv and Rev coins grading from Good to Gem, with a short description of the grade and then grade.  (See Image)
Also KGV is made a little simpler by the crown, the number of pearls diamond etc, but trying to grade 1938 onward is a little more difficult.
If anyone knows of a guide I would me most grateful.

Happy New Year.
Peter M

[ausproofs]

Hey Peter,

Happy new year to you too.. if you get a subscription of blue sheet, you can get coin grading guide with pics as a source for your coin grading. Also please refer to ANDA guide link below.


https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://anda.com.au/documents/resource/00114_pt%25202%2520-%2520grading%2520commonwealth%2520coins.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj8oOm0yqDRAhULnJQKHSwNBw0QFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNE9IkGQ7W1LzqEe2SSe2vMccenVxg&sig2=0xjr_wB76i1mcjgDqCF3Tg

[trout]

What type of grading system are you using at the moment, ANDA or Sheldon ?
Maybe a pictorial thread with grades from Poor/P1 to Uncirculated/MS would be a good idea in the Public section of this forum.
Maybe if we add the images here in this thread then pick the best ones out before we put them in the Public section would be a good idea
I can help out with images of the lower grade coins :angel:

[petpat]

Thanks Ausproofs, The Anda site is similar to my KG V sheet.
What I need to know is what to look for on KG IV to assist in grading.  A pictorial like ANDA KG V would be helpful.

Peter M

Hey Peter,

Happy new year to you too.. if you get a subscription of blue sheet, you can get coin grading guide with pics as a source for your coin grading. Also please refer to ANDA guide link below.


https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://anda.com.au/documents/resource/00114_pt%25202%2520-%2520grading%2520commonwealth%2520coins.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwj8oOm0yqDRAhULnJQKHSwNBw0QFggZMAA&usg=AFQjCNE9IkGQ7W1LzqEe2SSe2vMccenVxg&sig2=0xjr_wB76i1mcjgDqCF3Tg

[r9453]

I think a pictorial thread is a good (trout) idea, maybe using PCGS TrueView images.
1938 1D MS64BN:
 
http://www.pcgs.com/cert/20293810

[Nevol]

Hey petpat, I amended the title of the thread from George IV to George VI.
Cheers. :angel:

[petpat]

Hey petpat, I amended the title of the thread from George IV to George VI.
Cheers. :angel:

Thanks Nevol, I was having a seniors moment.

[Triggersmob]

It's a shame we don't have something like this available for Aussie coins.
http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/
Would make it so much easier for coin grading dummies like me.

Is this something we could make and attach it to this forum?

[drakesterling]

We don't have a Photograde page for Aussie coins, but you can look at the different coins in different grades through the pop report, which has the coins in each of the MS grades. Unfortunately, circulated coins don't have photos yet.

Eric

[Fr45h3R]

The ANDA guide for grading KGV coins, and any photo grade pictures, have to be used as a guide only.
The most important part of grading a coin, is to identify the amount of wear on the coin, not the missing detail of the coin.

Here are 2 examples, which have the same PCGS grade from my KGVI halfpenny set.

http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/coinfacts.aspx?i=2080674&sid=103430
and
http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/coinfacts.aspx?i=1740551&sid=103430

The 1951 London struck coin is very well struck, however the 1943 Melbourne struck coin has the highest points on the obverse not fully struck and detail is missing through the kings hair.

When looking at pictures myself, I find the remaining lustre and the condition of the fields, offers a better indication of the grade than the detail left in the relief areas.

-rob

[robbiegal]

I believe that the KG VI is the hardest to grade and I have spent the last decade trying to develop my grading skills on those years