fake 1938 Crown

drakesterling · October 25, 2015, 09:29:26 AM

Can you have it XRF tested where the plating is coming away just to be sure? The bullion dealers would have a XRF scanner.

Eric Eigner

trout · October 25, 2015, 09:54:17 AM

Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='81022' dateline='1445727566'Can you have it XRF tested where the plating is coming away just to be sure? The bullion dealers would have a XRF scanner.

Eric Eigner

Why would I bother to do this Eric??
If it is plated then in my book that =Dodgy, I also forgot to mention that this also fails the "ring test :ok:

robbiegal · October 25, 2015, 10:39:00 AM

the hubby uses the ring test on his 8 reales

just a thought - do people plate old coins to make them look newer by any chance?

trout · October 25, 2015, 11:38:18 AM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='81026' dateline='1445731740'the hubby uses the ring test on his 8 reales

just a thought - do people plate old coins to make them look newer by any chance?

I haven't heard of that being done, but having them Gold plated isn't an uncommon thing.

robbiegal · October 25, 2015, 10:28:32 PM

is the seller going to refund you?

trout · October 25, 2015, 10:50:00 PM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='81051' dateline='1445774312'is the seller going to refund you?

Yes all is good

I bought 2 of these from the same seller and the other one looked just fine and about a AU55/58 coin.
I sent it to PCGS and it is in the same submission as your penny's, I will find out in a few weeks how that one goes :ok:

drakesterling · October 26, 2015, 12:25:38 AM

Quote from: 'trout' pid='81023' dateline='1445729057'
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='81022' dateline='1445727566'Can you have it XRF tested where the plating is coming away just to be sure? The bullion dealers would have a XRF scanner.

Eric Eigner

Why would I bother to do this Eric??
If it is plated then in my book that =Dodgy, I also forgot to mention that this also fails the "ring test :ok:

Then don't.

trout · October 26, 2015, 01:21:42 AM

Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='81057' dateline='1445781338'
Quote from: 'trout' pid='81023' dateline='1445729057'
Quote from: 'drakesterling' pid='81022' dateline='1445727566'Can you have it XRF tested where the plating is coming away just to be sure? The bullion dealers would have a XRF scanner.

Eric Eigner

Why would I bother to do this Eric??
If it is plated then in my book that =Dodgy, I also forgot to mention that this also fails the "ring test :ok:

Then don't.

All is good Eric, It would involve a trip to Perth 1000k there and back to have this tested.
I did a "Ring Test" against another crown and the sound was totally different :ok:

robbiegal · October 26, 2015, 07:42:17 PM

found my 1937
weighs in at 28.3 grms
I bought this off an interstate dealer in what he called a consignment lot'
maybe it isn't a fake?

markn · October 27, 2015, 07:48:47 AM

RG I would bet you a real 1937 crown that your crown is real and the reverse has been left sitting in acid.

robbiegal · October 27, 2015, 08:20:30 AM

cool
I like that opinion
thanks Mark

I also did wonder if it was a lower pressure strike particularly on the reverse

I have a couple of other questionable coins ..... should start a thread!!

markn · October 27, 2015, 08:37:26 AM

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='81083' dateline='1445896230'cool
I like that opinion
thanks Mark

I also did wonder if it was a lower pressure strike particularly on the reverse

Personally I think the orange peel effect and the halo around the legends is a dead giveaway of an acid treated coin. I am not sure how reactive silver is with acid but your coin certainly looks like other acid treated coins I've seen.

Quote from: 'robbiegal' pid='81083' dateline='1445896230'I have a couple of other questionable coins ..... should start a thread!!

Yes please. I like mysteries.

Enlilninlil · November 16, 2015, 10:59:12 AM

Thanks for the posts everyone.