Fake 1932 florin ?

[echidna]

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-ONLY-1932-FLORIN-KEY-DATE-VERY-LOW-MINTAGE-ONLY-180-000-NICE-COLLECTABLE-GRADE-/221611034811?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123

Fake ?

I sent a polite email to the seller saying I think its a copy.
This is the response:
Hi, This is not a copy & I don't know where you are coming from. I have been collecting for 56 years & I have plenty of others to refer to, so please don't waste my time, with idiotic emails.

[Fordprefect]

Fake, and not a good one.
The reverse is a shocker.

Does this mean all his "Reference Coins" are Duds too ?

Just for those who may read,

The Suspect Fake is the Top Coin

[trout]

Looks like a cast copy to me.
Reported :ok:

[accumulator]

The cast look is so obvious it's ridiculous ! +1 on the report too.

[nealeffendi]

Contemporary copy or modern fake?

[trout]

The listing is still active.
I have also emailed the seller, this is what I sent.

Hi  Garrick,
After 56 years of collecting you should be able to identify this coin as a "Cast Replica" as it so obviously is.
The broken leg on the emu and the "Granular" look on the coin (Especially above the SH in Shilling) is a dead giveaway.
Just a friendly wake up call as I notice you have 100% feedback and selling this sort of thing can only end up in tears.
Regards
Jim

I await a response or a cancelation of the listing :angel:

[keldaw]

yea man , even I can see it is a fake , and I am half blind .

 I pity the poor bugger that buys it ..     ,, kel

[stevo1962]

I think the seller is finally coming to his senses.This is the message I
sent him

     "Hi there just wanted to let you know that this coin is a fake .You can tell by the fact that a coin with so little wear should not have such a flat star.The rim of the coin is all wrong as well , it's too thin and the beading goes right to the edge which is not normal.Just my observation as I have quite a few of these and am familiar with how they should look"

     This is his reply

   " Hi, Thank you for that, it appears that my eyesight has degraded, but when I thoroughly checked it, you were right. Regards, Garrick."

[trout]

Bravo, The seller ended the listing and NOT eBay.
I got the same reply as Steve
Good on Him :good:

[robbiegal]

yes
it is ended still with the Q&A

Q:  Hello Garrick I think this is a copy. Dave Robinson
A:  Hi, This is not a copy & I don't know where you are coming from. I have been collecting for 56 years & I have plenty of others to refer to, so please don't waste my time, with idiotic emails. Regards, Garrick.
     20 Nov, 2014

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[trout]

yes
it is ended still with the Q&A

Q:  Hello Garrick I think this is a copy. Dave Robinson
A:  Hi, This is not a copy & I don't know where you are coming from. I have been collecting for 56 years & I have plenty of others to refer to, so please don't waste my time, with idiotic emails. Regards, Garrick.
     20 Nov, 2014

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All is good RG, this bloke probably bought this coin in good faith thinking it was genuine.
With the advice and explanations as to why it is a fake from people that emailed him , instead of just saying it is a fake helped him to realise what he had.
He ended the listing of his own accord and for me that makes him a "Good Egg".
I feel sorry for the poor bugger, stuck with that PIG :ok:

[nealeffendi]

Is it a PIG though? Yes it is fake but some of us like to add contemporary fakes to our dark side collections. As most fakers back then would have used whatever date was available it stands to reason that there were not too many fake '32s made. If so it might be quite rare (maybe not quite valuable though).

[wwwww]

It's a modern copy.