What a bizarre ebay item .....

[nealeffendi]

I contacted the seller as he has images of 1920 pennies (my weak spot). Got a friendly reply back. His name is Sam.
So does anyone know a collector from Cessnock named Sam?

Hi nealeffendi, I thought of you when I saw those 1920 pennies.
In any case, these 4 coins are all from the Borg collection.
The 1920 No dot he suspects of being manipulated, checks out based on the notes I have on 1920 pennies. The rim beads on the obverse of the dot above bottom he's pictured are very light, where as the 1920 No Dot has clearly defined beads. It can't be a dot below because they have CBL, and the no dot in the picture has FBL.

Let me know if I'm wrong, I'll remove my post.

-rob

Hi Rob,don't remove your post as you are mostly right. Dot belows can be   CBL and FBL. The ex Borg No Dot is a genuine No Dot based on the reverse circular die crack (I recognise Dots/ No Dots by knowing the markers for every die). There are over 20 FBL Dot Below dies.
The Dot Above coin is an early strike from a particularly long lasting die that struck over a third of all Dot Above coins.

[Fr45h3R]

I contacted the seller as he has images of 1920 pennies (my weak spot). Got a friendly reply back. His name is Sam.
So does anyone know a collector from Cessnock named Sam?

Hi nealeffendi, I thought of you when I saw those 1920 pennies.
In any case, these 4 coins are all from the Borg collection.
The 1920 No dot he suspects of being manipulated, checks out based on the notes I have on 1920 pennies. The rim beads on the obverse of the dot above bottom he's pictured are very light, where as the 1920 No Dot has clearly defined beads. It can't be a dot below because they have CBL, and the no dot in the picture has FBL.

Let me know if I'm wrong, I'll remove my post.

-rob

Hi Rob,don't remove your post as you are mostly right. Dot belows can be   CBL and FBL. The ex Borg No Dot is a genuine No Dot based on the reverse circular die crack (I recognise Dots/ No Dots by knowing the markers for every die). There are over 20 FBL Dot Below dies.
The Dot Above coin is an early strike from a particularly long lasting die that struck over a third of all Dot Above coins.

Whoops, my notes do have dot belows have CBL and FBL.